<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><font size="4" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(34,34,34);background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">Yes but random mutation and natural selection can only get you so far, future improvements will need a intelligent designer. Those mental flubs and errors you mentioned are good evidence that our minds were not made be a intelligent designer, much less a infinitely wise one.  </font><span class="gmail-im" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:19.2px;color:rgb(80,0,80);background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">​><i><span> </span>​</i></div><i>I hope it gets the chance.</i></blockquote><div> </div></span><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:19.2px;color:rgb(34,34,34);background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><font size="4">I still think we have a fighting chance of reaching the singularity reasonably intact, although my confidence is only about a third what it was 2 years ago.  </font></div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:19.2px;color:rgb(34,34,34);background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><font size="4"><br></font></div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:19.2px;color:rgb(34,34,34);background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><font size="4"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">​ John K Clark​</div> <span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">​</span></font></div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:19.2px;color:rgb(34,34,34);background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><font size="4"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></span></font></div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif" size="4">So, are you implying that artificial intelligence programs will teach us how to think, after, maybe much after the singularity?  That they will expose all of our errors, cast them out and do the problems the right way?  Programming themselves thus becomes a lesson for us in problem-solving, eh?</font></div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif" size="4"><br></font></div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif" size="4">I am reminded of the old story about the little girl who was taught that the computers did all the incredible work of mathematics to get the answers, to which she replied "But how do you know that they are the right answers?"</font></div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif" size="4"><br></font></div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif" size="4">bill w</font></div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 12:31 PM, John Clark <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:johnkclark@gmail.com" target="_blank">johnkclark@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><span class=""><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif">On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 2:26 PM, William Flynn Wallace </span><span dir="ltr" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><<a href="mailto:foozler83@gmail.com" target="_blank">foozler83@gmail.com</a>></span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"> wrote:</span><br></div></span><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><span class=""><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:'comic sans ms',sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:large;float:none;display:inline;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">​></div></span><i>Evolution did a great job but it has a long way to go. </i></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></span><font size="4">Yes but random mutation and natural selection can only get you so far, future improvements will need a intelligent designer. Those mental flubs and errors you mentioned are good evidence that our minds were not made be a intelligent designer, much less a infinitely wise one.  </font><span class=""><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">​><i> ​</i></div><i>I hope it gets the chance.</i></blockquote><div> </div>







</span><div><font size="4">I still think we have a fighting chance of reaching the singularity reasonably intact, although my confidence is only about a third what it was 2 years ago.  </font></div><div><font size="4"><br></font></div><div><font size="4"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">​ John K Clark​</div> <span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">​</span></font><br></div></div></div></div>
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