<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Aug 5, 2018 at 12:27 PM, John Clark <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:johnkclark@gmail.com" target="_blank">johnkclark@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><span class=""><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Aug 5, 2018 at 12:27 PM, William Flynn Wallace <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:foozler83@gmail.com" target="_blank">foozler83@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:</div></span><div class="gmail_quote"><span class=""><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:'comic sans ms',sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">></div>Is believing in an authority rationalism? Depends on the authority </div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></span><font size="4">It's inductive reasoning. If the authority has a history of usually correctly reporting the facts (New York Times, Washington Post, Science, Nature) then they will probably continue to do so and be correct about what they say today too. If the authority has a history of never being correct ( Alex Jones, QAnon) or seldom being correct ( Breitbart, Fox News) then they will probably continue with that too and what they say today is most likely incorrect.</font></div><div class="gmail_quote"><font size="4"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_quote"><font size="4"><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;display:inline">John K Clark</div><br></font><div><br></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">When you say the NYT has a history of being correct, then you are using some external sources of validity to conclude that - external to the Times, that is. And ditto for the external lack of validity for Fox.</div><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">So you have a team approach: if Nature, Science, the NYT all say the same thing, then you conclude it's true (true in the scientific sense of provisionally true). And likewise when you have contradictions, Fox and NYT agree, you wait to see if it can be sorted out later, I assume. Or maybe, if Fox is consistently bad, then just ignore it</div></div></div></div>
<br></blockquote><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0);display:inline">But if no external sources of validity are used, then it's clearly plain authoritarianism and no more, right? Like religion. </div></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0);display:inline"><br></div></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0);display:inline">bill w</div></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0);display:inline"><br></div></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0);display:inline">bill w</div> </div><div> </div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>
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