<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:18.6667px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline"><span> </span>A funny YouTube had a group of teenagers trying to figure out how to dial one of those old-time rotary phones spike</span><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:18.6667px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline"><br></span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:18.6667px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">Please supply the link. I just don't believe it. bill w</span></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Aug 11, 2018 at 12:08 PM, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:spike@rainier66.com" target="_blank">spike@rainier66.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="m_616308917922610289WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat-bounces@lists.<wbr>extropy.org</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>John Clark<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, August 11, 2018 9:30 AM<span class=""><br><b>To:</b> ExI chat list <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.<wbr>org</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [ExI] female heros?<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt">On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 1:01 PM, SR Ballard <<a href="mailto:sen.otaku@gmail.com" target="_blank">sen.otaku@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><div><span class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><div><div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:14.0pt">>><u></u> <u></u></span></i></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:14.0pt">Why should we suppose that Uploading would lead to sex addiction?</span></i><span style="font-size:14.0pt"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div></span><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt">>…But this isn't just about sex that's only one small aspect of it. If a upload had full control of his (or her) emotional control panel, and there is no reason in theory he couldn't, then he could maximize ALL pleasurable experiences not just sex. ... If we're not the first I think that is the best explanation of the Fermi Paradox. <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt">…<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt">>…A hormone is just a chemical that can convey information, but a upload could do that much more efficiently electronically. …John K Clark <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt">That whole line of reasoning carries an unsettling plausibility.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt">I was toying with another one, perhaps a version of something posted here previously. A funny YouTube had a group of teenagers trying to figure out how to dial one of those old-time rotary phones, the only kind that existed in my (and John’s) misspent youth. Anyone born before about 1970 knows exactly how to use one. Watching a group born after 2000 attempt it was hilarious.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt">This video gave me the idea that perhaps as automation increases, our collective competence at reasoning decreases. As AI steps up, Bio-I stands down. As computers get smarter, we get dumber.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt">If that is the case, then we can imagine AI getting smart enough to run things and take care of us, but lacking in ambition to contact other intelligence. It is smart enough and good at taking care of what is happening down here, but just doesn’t care much what is out there; it just focuses inward. Then we humans still have that spark of curiosity but we get too damn stupid to do anything with it.<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><u></u><u></u></font></span></span></p><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt">spike<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></font></span></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div></div></div></div></div></div><br>______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>
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