<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><span style="color:rgb(80,0,80);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:19.2px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">Any thoughts as to why life expectancies in both the U.K and the U.S, across</span><br style="color:rgb(80,0,80);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:19.2px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><span style="color:rgb(80,0,80);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:19.2px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">ethnic and sexual lines, have been reversing in recent years, especially</span><br style="color:rgb(80,0,80);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:19.2px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><span style="color:rgb(80,0,80);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:19.2px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">considering that we spend higher percentages of our GDP on our medical</span><br style="color:rgb(80,0,80);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:19.2px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><span style="color:rgb(80,0,80);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:19.2px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">systems than most nations or all in the world?  Haskell</span><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><span style="color:rgb(80,0,80);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:19.2px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline"><br></span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><span style="color:rgb(80,0,80);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:19.2px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">I think it's diet.  In Africa you can find people who look half their age, have perfect teeth, and don't die of things a lot of us do.  They eat the foods they have been eating for thousands of years, and when they switch to a Western diet, they get the same obesity, diabetes, osteoporosis, osteoarthritis and so on that bug us.   A lot of chemicals have been added to our foods, from what is sprayed on crops to what companies add to cereal and so on.  As I have said before, we are walking around with at least 50 chemicals in our bloodstreams that we were certainly not born with.</span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><span style="color:rgb(80,0,80);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:19.2px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline"><br></span></div><div class="gmail_default" style=""><font color="#500050"><span style="font-size:19.2px">Add in the chemicals in the air, in our water, in the very dirt we walk on, in the drugs we take, and you have an incredible mess that you could not straighten out with thousands of years of scientific studies.  Every day you see lawsuits based on chemicals added to plywood or sofa fabrics ad infinitum.  Those Africans experience none of these.  I'll bet if we were eating what we ate a thousand years ago, we'd be much better off.  Hence the paleo diet, right?</span></font></div><div class="gmail_default" style=""><font color="#500050"><span style="font-size:19.2px"><br></span></font></div><div class="gmail_default" style=""><font color="#500050"><span style="font-size:19.2px">bill w</span></font></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 9:19 AM,  <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:spike@rainier66.com" target="_blank">spike@rainier66.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class=""><br>
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From: extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat-bounces@lists.<wbr>extropy.org</a>> On Behalf Of<br>
Kevin George Haskell<br>
Subject: [ExI] Declining Life Expectancies in U.K & U.S<br>
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Any thoughts as to why life expectancies in both the U.K and the U.S, across<br>
ethnic and sexual lines, have been reversing in recent years, especially<br>
considering that we spend higher percentages of our GDP on our medical<br>
systems than most nations or all in the world? This is Extropianism and<br>
Transhumanism in reverse.  Here's the article from 'The Guardian'.<br>
<a href="https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/aug/19/bad-news-is-were-dying
-earlier-in-britain-down-to-shit-life-syndrome" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.theguardian.com/<wbr>commentisfree/2018/aug/19/bad-<wbr>news-is-were-dying<br>
-earlier-in-britain-down-to-<wbr>shit-life-syndrome</a><br>
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</span>I have long suspected it is in how they deal with young people getting<br>
murdered and the opioid addiction rate.  We know that is crazy high.<br>
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What I want to see is life expectancies for good old-fashioned<br>
perish-of-age-related-maladies life expectancy.  Filter out the deaths from<br>
factors that don't apply to me, the stuff that orbits in a different galaxy<br>
from the one I inhabit: gang wars, dope, and so forth, then what is left<br>
over?<br>
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spike<br>
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