<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0px;color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:19.2px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">Most of us live in free states. Exi-types tend to cluster more in free states. So… vote for your favorite party. Perhaps the second most dreadful mainstream candidate who wins the election will be influenced to add your third party to his or her coalition.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0px;color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:19.2px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0px;color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:19.2px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">Make sense? Does to me. spike<span class="gmail-HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><u></u><u></u></font></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0px;color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:19.2px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">-----------------</p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0px;color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:19.2px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">What do mean by free state, sir?</p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0px;color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:19.2px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><br></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0px;color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:19.2px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">What worries me: on every kind of news I see Trump's name. There must be 6 or 7 articles in my paper every day. Name recognition is a powerful factor in elections. Some will look at the candidates and just mark one they know. No one else has 1/1000th the name coverage. What we need is a candidate NOW! So the news (and the Democrats) can start putting that candidate's name out there for people to see.</p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0px;color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:19.2px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><br></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0px;color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:19.2px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">In advertising, a lot of what matters is just to show the product and its name, over and over. People may not read or listen, but they will see the name, and that sells a lot of Tide.</p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0px;color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:19.2px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><br></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0px;color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:19.2px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">I have no idea who to get or how to get them. Clinton too benefited from her name far more than her politics, I suspect.</p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0px;color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:19.2px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><br></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0px;color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:19.2px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">Hollywood press people tell us that just getting the name and face in the news is what they seek. Favorable would be good, but bad is just about as good.</p><span class="gmail-HOEnZb" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:19.2px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><font color="#888888"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0px"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0px">bill w</p></font></span></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Aug 24, 2018 at 1:50 PM, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:spike@rainier66.com" target="_blank">spike@rainier66.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="m_8440888634161598528WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat-bounces@lists.<wbr>extropy.org</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>SR Ballard<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, August 24, 2018 11:20 AM<br><b>To:</b> ExI chat list <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.<wbr>org</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [ExI] Electoral College and 1177 BCE<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><div><span class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, Aug 20, 2018 at 10:06 AM, John Clark <<a href="mailto:johnkclark@gmail.com" target="_blank">johnkclark@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br><br><br>> There<br>> must be somebody on the list besides me that voted for Clinton but if there<br>> is he's yet to speak up.<u></u><u></u></p></blockquote><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div></span><div><p class="MsoNormal">>…I voted Clinton. I was tempted to vote for Trump as a joke, but then I worried he might actually be elected, and voted Clinton, because I thought the race would be close. If it had been any other Republican except Trump I probably would have voted 3rd party…<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">It also matters which state you are in. If one has libertarian views and lives in a free state (such as California, New York, Texas, etc.) then your vote cannot possibly swing the election, but… if a third party makes a strong showing, as it did this last time, then it influences the mainstream candidates to reach out to those third parties.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Voting third party isn’t about getting one’s own candidate elected (there will not be a Libertarian or a Green elected to high office in our lifetime) but notice how this last time around, neither of the mainstream candidates even tossed a bone to any of the third parties, not that I could tell. If either mainstream candidate had taken most of Gary Johnson’s followers, that candidate would have easily taken a clean victory.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Most of us live in free states. Exi-types tend to cluster more in free states. So… vote for your favorite party. Perhaps the second most dreadful mainstream candidate who wins the election will be influenced to add your third party to his or her coalition.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Make sense? Does to me.<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><u></u><u></u></font></span></p><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">spike<u></u><u></u></p></font></span></div></div></div></div></div></div><br>______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>
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