<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">On Sep 14, 2018, at 12:27 PM, Henrik Ohrstrom <<a href="mailto:henrik.ohrstrom@gmail.com">henrik.ohrstrom@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<blockquote type="cite"><div>Bats and moths have evolved together, probably starting with normal sounds for both and escalation and arms race as the logical result.<div>If it was a case of intelligent design we would se the usual signs of a design committee, inside out retinas, brains rotated and mirrored, air and fluid pathways crossing each other and so on. </div><div>/Henrik<br></div></div></blockquote><br><div>I was going to say something like that: bat</div><div>ancestors likely didn’t start off with the highly developed echo-location, but had to coevolve this with prey (and others) that we’re trying to avoid being a meal. It was likely an arms race rather than the moths being plunked down with already sophisticated bats...</div><div><br></div><div>However, this is simply a “just so” story. To figure out how the moths evolved their countermeasures, one would have to actually look at and analyze what data there is on moth evolution.</div><div><br></div><div><div><div style="line-height: normal;"><div style="line-height: normal;"><span style="line-height: 20px; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Regards,</span></div><div style="line-height: normal;"><span style="line-height: 20px; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></div><div><div style="line-height: normal;"><span style="line-height: 20px; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Dan</span></div><div style="line-height: normal;"><span style="line-height: 20px; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"> Sample my Kindle books at:</span></div><div style="line-height: normal;"><p style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><a href="http://author.to/DanUst">http://author.to/DanUst</a></span></p><div><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><br></span></div></div></div></div><div><div style="line-height: normal;"></div></div></div></div></body></html>