<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000">adrian wrote: <span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)">This requires quite a bit of mass, but moving quite a bit of mass </span><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)">through a zero-g environment is far simpler than many other things we </span><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)">discuss on this list. We're talking "large asteroid" range, far </span><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)">smaller than even the Moon, so this could be done with today's </span><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)">technology (though it would cost in the millions or billions of </span><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)">dollars).</span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)">----------------</span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)">So the scifi stories I read will come true: we will move asteroids into Earth orbit, and create large tunnels to live in, providing radiation protection, and then tow asteroids which are full of water to supply the colony (like one of Asimov's stories where they got a water asteroid (if that's what you call it) from the rings of Saturn). I suppose metals and even oil could also be supplied by asteroids. I doubt the 'oil' part, but what do I know?</span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)"><br></span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)">Good stuff! bill w</span></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 7:04 PM Adrian Tymes <<a href="mailto:atymes@gmail.com">atymes@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Short of re-engineering humans (including uploading, which is<br>
"re-engineering" onto a silicon substrate), add sufficient radiation<br>
shielding to reduce background radiation aboard to background<br>
radiation levels at Earth's surface. 10 microseverts per day, was it?<br>
<br>
This requires quite a bit of mass, but moving quite a bit of mass<br>
through a zero-g environment is far simpler than many other things we<br>
discuss on this list. We're talking "large asteroid" range, far<br>
smaller than even the Moon, so this could be done with today's<br>
technology (though it would cost in the millions or billions of<br>
dollars).<br>
On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 9:16 AM William Flynn Wallace<br>
<<a href="mailto:foozler83@gmail.com" target="_blank">foozler83@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> My question about living in space: what do you do about the radiation for the long term? Did you ever read Lois McMaster Bujold? Her space living humans were designed with four hands, not needing legs in space. Quaddies.<br>
><br>
> bill w<br>
><br>
> On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 10:15 AM Giulio Prisco <<a href="mailto:giulio@gmail.com" target="_blank">giulio@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Or just upload people to suitable hardware. I think this will be the<br>
>> long-term solution.<br>
>> On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 4:50 PM <<a href="mailto:spike@rainier66.com" target="_blank">spike@rainier66.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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>> > -----Original Message-----<br>
>> > From: extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org</a>> On Behalf Of SR<br>
>> > Ballard<br>
>> > Subject: Re: [ExI] Maximum Jailbreak, and the legacy of Stephen Hawking<br>
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>> > >...Yes, I think if we go to space sooner, it will become more of a physical<br>
>> > impetus to create post-human forms, because it will be so obvious we need<br>
>> > them.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > >...SR Ballard<br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> > Ja. If we get sufficiently advanced in genetics, we could do selective<br>
>> > breeding of humans, only with a cool twist. Perhaps we could selectively<br>
>> > breed humans with minds like the genetic parents but with small spindly<br>
>> > bodies more suited to reduced gravity and limited resources of an L5<br>
>> > station.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > spike<br>
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