<div dir="ltr">William Flynn Wallace wrote:<div>"Right - a few years ago when I was single I bought all the stuff I ever wanted - camera, stereo, PC, cooking gear, yard machines, plasma TV, and of course it was good that I never wanted a mansion, a yacht, etc." <br></div><div><br></div><div>Hold on! Being single sounded great for you! And then a woman got involved! Lol! ; ) Actually, I should not give you a hard time, because I met the love of my life, despite being middle-aged and thinking myself past that lovey dovey stuff. And now I look forward to starting a new life in the Philippines, and living with her, and her four girls, ages, 6, 9, 12 and 14, who are wonderful, and need a dad. I have known them for about two years. Parenthood will be a whole new experience for me... She wants the girls raised in the Filipino culture, and is very close to her friends and family. And so I will live there for roughly a decade, as the girls grow up. </div><div><br></div><div>I'm not an IT professional like so many of you, so my plan is to teach English online, which will make for a humble living. But I will still be paid in dollars, which will allow us to get by. I spent two amazing weeks in the Philippines back in March of this year, and I will see her again, this coming March! She is college educated/associate's degree, and works as an accounts receivable clerk. My love comes from a humble background, but then so do I. I need to raise twenty thousand dollars (any ideas on how to raise funds quickly, please share), so that I can get an indefinite stay Visa (proof of savings, and not a fee). Or, I need to get a work Visa, but if I were to lose the job for some reason, I could get deported! And so that is what I have been up to, lately! I have my work cut out for me...</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>John : ) </div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 9:08 AM William Flynn Wallace <<a href="mailto:foozler83@gmail.com">foozler83@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><br><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">BillW talks about giving it away, which is aimed at self-actualization, which tells me he is already good in the comfort and safety part of the ladder.</span><br><p class="MsoNormal" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">spike</p><p class="MsoNormal" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><br></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">Right - a few years ago when I was single I bought all the stuff I ever wanted - camera, stereo, PC, cooking gear, yard machines, plasma TV, and of course it was good that I never wanted a mansion, a yacht, etc. Now my main wants are books and I have enough money for those.</p><p class="MsoNormal" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><br></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">Maybe there are those who are stuff-crazy and never get enough and are competing with friends ('the guy with the most stuff when he dies, wins'), but I think with age comes the realization that what is lacking is not more stuff but more and different experiences, which is not good for me because I can't travel (back, wife partially disabled). Thanks to the web I can go places I can't visit, and when virtual reality gear comes of age I hope that I will be here to enjoy it. Thanks to the web I can 'talk' to people all over the world. I had an aunt who would love email. You could not talk to her on the phone for long because she was deathly afraid of the telephone bill, even if I was paying.</p><p class="MsoNormal" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><br></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">bill w</p></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 10:26 AM <<a href="mailto:spike@rainier66.com" target="_blank">spike@rainier66.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="m_4934629609877683237m_-2100406409169281273WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Dave Sill<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [ExI] What would you do if you won the billion dollar plus MegaMillions Lottery, and are lotteries a bad thing?<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 9:25 AM William Flynn Wallace <<a href="mailto:foozler83@gmail.com" target="_blank">foozler83@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black">>>…I don't know how I would spend even one million dollars. Two people in a giant mansion with servants everywhere? Limousines? Nah. So I would hire people to investigate charities and give most of it away… BillW<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">>…I'd ensure that my family was taken care of first--not to the level of opulence, but to the point of not having to worry about food/clothing/shelter/medical/etc. After that I'd use it advocating for changes I'd like to see… Dave Sill<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">This exchange reminded me of a concept they explained to us in psychology. BillW is likely already an expert in this: Maslow’s hierarchy of needs. <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">In retrospect I think BillW meant billion dollars rather than a million. A million dollars isn’t a lot of money. I have worked on projects with a million dollar a year budget: you need to watch your pennies on that small an effort, know exactly what you need to do, get er dun, get off the charge number as soon as you can, don’t camp out on that number (as we space guys used to say.)<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">With a windfall billion, Dave is describing making sure all the comfort and safety stuff is taken care of, for himself and his family but doesn’t mention the status or self-actualization. I would conclude he is already good up there at the top. BillW talks about giving it away, which is aimed at self-actualization, which tells me he is already good in the comfort and safety part of the ladder.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Every society has people everywhere on the ladder, from those struggling with self-actualization down to those struggling with getting sufficient food and clothing, never mind shelter. These latter are seen camping along the freeways everywhere right around here. <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">As society gets more prosperous, the bulk of the wealth is created by those up near the top of that ladder (ah jeez, I think I just lit John Clark’s fuse with that comment (Johnny, we know already, me lad, we know.)) So the society which still has people at the bottom has all these people pumping more and more money into climbing near the top of that ladder. Those lower rungs are a lot cheaper, but there is a lot less money down there.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">spike<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div></div></div></div></div>_______________________________________________<br>
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