<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">Firstly, the evolved machines that we call people are much more complex than the designed machines that we currently make, and secondly they are the product of natural (i.e. random) processes that actually encourage differences, with the result that no two people are identical. Both of those things will change. So while you say "we can never tell..", I'd rather say "we can't currently tell...". ben</span><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><br></span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">Even with cloned people you can't stop crossover during mitosis, can you? Never mind. I can't think of any reason to have identical people anyway. You could never create two people who were genetically identical and then create identical environments for them, because you can do neither.</span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><br></span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">bill w</span></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 1:43 AM Ben Zaiboc <<a href="mailto:ben@zaiboc.net">ben@zaiboc.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div class="m_-1825195535531958869moz-cite-prefix">BillW wrote:</div>
<blockquote type="cite"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">I
agreed with John Clark on this issue some time ago. What I
think we can never tell is whether some machine can feel the
same way we do. We have difficulty enough telling that between
two people. Give a machine the exact same input you give an
identical machine and you will get identical results. Not with
people.</span></blockquote>
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Yes, and there's a couple of reasons for that. Firstly, the evolved
machines that we call people are much more complex than the designed
machines that we currently make, and secondly they are the product
of natural (i.e. random) processes that actually encourage
differences, with the result that no two people are identical. Both
of those things will change. So while you say "we can never tell..",
I'd rather say "we can't currently tell...".<br>
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Ben Zaiboc</pre>
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