<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 8:00 AM BillK <<a href="mailto:pharos@gmail.com">pharos@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</span><br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><i><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">> </span>there are many questions that do not<span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"> </span>have scientific answers because they were not legitimate scientific<br>
questions to begin with.<span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"> </span>Many of these questions concern the things<span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"> </span>that are most important of all: faith, hope, love, truth, beauty, and<span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"> </span>goodness — these do not lie in the territory of science.</i></blockquote><div> </div><font size="4">Hope, love, beauty, and goodness are all important virtues in my opinion but I don't expect science to say anything about them. Science can inform me what the universe's opinion about various things are but these virtues are not about the Universe's opinion they are about mine, and even the Universe doesn't know more about my opinion than I do. But truth is different, science can help us get more of that. As for faith, in my opinion faith is not a virtue at all, I think it's a vice.</font><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
</blockquote><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><i><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">> </span>most people do not believe in an inherent conflict<span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"> </span>between science and religion,<span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"></span></i></blockquote><div><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><font size="4">I am not most people.</font></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"></span> <span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">><i> </i></span><i>and the historical evidence suggests<span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"> </span>that they are correct.</i></blockquote><div><br></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"></font><font size="4">Tell that to the religious nuts who burned Giordano Bruno alive or threatened to torture Galileo and imprisoned him for life or to the Taliban who kill doctors who try to vaccinate children. Or tell it to any evangelical Trump voter who thinks the universe started not 13.8 billion years ago but in 4004 BC .</font><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><br></font></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"></blockquote><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><i> <span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">></span>we typically find deep-seated conflicts between values that<span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"> </span>have only tenuous connections to science and religion.</i></blockquote><div><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><font size="4">I don't understand why so many people typically feel that in order to be a good person one must be a religious apologist.</font></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><font size="4"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><font size="4">John K Clark </font></div><div> </div><br>
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