<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default"><div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><font size="4">And if they believe in even 5% of what Trump says or believe in "alternate facts" then they don't believe in the Scientific Method, and for me that outranks even libertarian philosophy; the only thing that outranks that is direct experience.   </font></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><font size="4"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><font size="4">John K Clark</font></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><font size="4"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><font size="4">(Direct experience can be very misleading, John - you don't want to generalize from a sample of one)</font></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><font size="4"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><font size="4">Just where in school at any level did you learn decision-making?  Hah.  I taught it to every 101 class in a way, when I taught alternatives to empiricism.  Most people have no idea what that word means, including college graduates in my family.  This is a national educational shame.</font></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><font size="4"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><font size="4">How do people decide to get married?  Which car?  Insurance? Rent or own?</font></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><font size="4"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><font size="4">Darwin did it in part, re getting married.  Ben Franklin wrote a letter to a friend explaining his method, which is described below:</font></div><div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><font size="4"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font size="4"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><a href="https://www.artofmanliness.com/articles/how-to-make-a-decision-like-ben-franklin/">https://www.artofmanliness.com/articles/how-to-make-a-decision-like-ben-franklin/</a></font><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font size="4"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><br></font></font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font size="4"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Simple (if you can multiply) - effective.</font></font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font size="4"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><br></font></font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font size="4"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">bill w</font></font></div></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Sun, Nov 11, 2018 at 11:04 AM John Clark <<a href="mailto:johnkclark@gmail.com">johnkclark@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">On Fri, Nov 9, 2018 at 4:08 PM Dan TheBookMan <<a href="mailto:danust2012@gmail.com" target="_blank">danust2012@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</span><br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div><i><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">> </span>A good litmus test these days is asking any self-identified libertarian if they’re for open borders.</i></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"></font><font size="4">Or if there're for Free Trade. The trouble is the number of people that you or I would consider libertarian are vastly outnumbered by the number of people who call themselves libertarian, as a result the word has lost its meaning. And the Libertarian Party certainly hasn't helped, it utterly disgraced itself in 2016.</font></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div><i> <span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">> </span>If they’re not, then they’re not a libertarian. </i></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><font size="4">And if they believe in even 5% of what Trump says or believe in "alternate facts" then they don't believe in the Scientific Method, and for me that outranks even libertarian philosophy; the only thing that outranks that is direct experience.   </font></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><font size="4"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><font size="4">John K Clark</font></div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div> </div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br>
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