<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><font size="4">am in pain but the Scientific Method <span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">said</span> I'm not in pain then I'm still in pain and the Scientific Method was wrong.</font></div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><font size="4"><br></font></div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><font size="4"><span class="gmail_default"> John</span><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"> K Clark</span></font></div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><font size="4"><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">You are really stretching it now.  Whatever method was used to tell you you are not in pain was not a well-designed study.</span></font></div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><font size="4"><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">However - I do recall some calculations were made by ??? which told them that bumblebees could not fly, so you have a point.</span></font></div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><font size="4"><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></span></font></div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><font size="4"><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">bill w</span></font></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Sun, Nov 11, 2018 at 12:24 PM John Clark <<a href="mailto:johnkclark@gmail.com">johnkclark@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">On Sun, Nov 11, 2018 at 12:35 PM William Flynn Wallace <<a href="mailto:foozler83@gmail.com" target="_blank">foozler83@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</span><br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr"><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote"><font size="4"><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">>></span>And if they believe in even 5% of what Trump says or believe in "alternate facts" then they don't believe in the Scientific Method, and for me that outranks even libertarian philosophy; the only thing that outranks that is direct experience.   </font></blockquote></div></div></blockquote><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"> </blockquote><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">></span><i>Direct experience can be very misleading</i></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"></span><font size="4">By Direct Experience I mean immediate sense perception. If I hit my finger with a hammer (quite likely as I'm not very good with tools) and am in pain but the Scientific Method <span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">said</span> I'm not in pain then I'm still in pain and the Scientific Method was wrong.</font></div><div><font size="4"><br></font></div><div><font size="4"><span class="gmail_default"> John</span><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"> K Clark</span></font></div><div><br></div><div> </div><div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div></div></div>
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