<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">I think “dizzy” is a very mild way of putting motion sickness. Very dizzy I would maybe accept. The first thing you notice is a discomfort in your stomach and a tiny headache, then you look up from your book and you’re in full blown “I must vomit” panic. Very fun.<div><br></div><div>I am one of those people who CANNOT read in cars, EXCEPT if I fall asleep and wake up again while the car is still in motion. </div><div><br></div><div>Curiously, I never have this problem with airplanes (even when other people are doing panicked screaming about turbulence), though I have to take Dramamine before watching action movies. </div><div><br></div><div>I doubt sex in a moving car would bother me though, as long as it wasn’t something too vigorous. </div><div><br></div><div>Perhaps Uber-Harlots would just carry some Dramamine in the glove box and offer it to you the say Uber drivers offer you mints.</div><div><br></div><div>The bigger issue with the Uber-Harlot is that many/most prostitutes like to wash up between clients. This would be complicated by the car, I think. <br><div><br>On Nov 13, 2018, at 12:57 PM, William Flynn Wallace <<a href="mailto:foozler83@gmail.com">foozler83@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000">I don't know about the motion sickness. Is it like those people who can't read in a car because it makes them dizzy? Is it worse for some because they are not in control of the vehicle?</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000">bill w</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 11:19 AM <<a href="mailto:spike@rainier66.com">spike@rainier66.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br>
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On Tue, 13 Nov 2018 at 15:35, spike wrote:<br>
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> Remember hashing this out about 5 yrs ago?<br>
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> <a href="https://nypost.com/2018/11/12/self-driving-vehicles-will-lead-to-more-" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://nypost.com/2018/11/12/self-driving-vehicles-will-lead-to-more-</a><br>
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> Well what the heck else are you going to do with all that extra time? <br>
> You can’t go anywhere, and a lotta people can’t read in a moving car <br>
> or even watch a video, and it doesn’t take all that long to eat a <br>
> meal, and a typical commute in from the central valley to the cool <br>
> stuff around Palo Alto is about an hour and a half, so…<br>
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One snag that I don't remember discussing ---- <<a href="https://theconversation.com/driverless-cars-will-make-you-sick-but-theres-a-fix-106646" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://theconversation.com/driverless-cars-will-make-you-sick-but-theres-a-fix-106646</a>><br>
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My PhD research suggests we’ll never be as comfortable or productive as these visions portray without finding a way to combat motion sickness.<br>
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So you'll both have to look out the window to try control queasiness!<br>
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Eh, entirely possible with some people, but... this too may help a particular class of harlot: those who don't get motion sickness.<br>
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I was on a cruise with a dozen friends and noticed great variation in the impact of rough seas. We had one friend turning green with every pitch and roll, but I scarcely noticed and never once experienced even mild motion sickness. I have been on some pretty wild plane rides where I looked around and noticed I was the only one eating. {8^D I'm lucky that way.<br>
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The notion of Meals on Wheels would reduce the harlot's overhead. She (or he) need not provide the "office" since the customer does that. She (or he (xe)) could make a fine living at 2/3 the price and still be a preferable deal for plenty of customers, since it carries the benefit of additional safety (the customer doesn't need to go into that part of town) and additional privacy (because anybody could be (and probably is) making video of who is visiting that part of town.) A customer could have something as simple as a self-driving version of a Toyota Sienna, which isn't that different from a sedan but is big enough to put a bed back there behind the passenger seat. Since that is about the most generic vehicle on the road, the local rising executive who really doesn't have time for romance could pick up a harlot on his way to or from work, and no one would know who hired her or him or xim. Privacy!<br>
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Then variations on a theme can be imagined: a harlot with her or his or xis own self-driving vehicle, which has its advantages as well.<br>
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Regarding motion sickness: it can be imagined that a self-driver can be written to be a patient driver: its accelerations and decelerations can be milder, and there is none of that impatient switching lanes we carbon units do.<br>
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I am coming from the viewpoint of one who lives next to a Silicon Valley interstate freeway, where the speed is seldom very high, so a lot of driving motion is pretty mild.<br>
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