<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"> I think seeing a prostitute would still count as losing your virginity, where with a sex machine, I probably wouldn’t count it. ballard</span><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><br></span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">Italy, I think, was the place where some prostitutes were studied. They called themselves virgins even though they had given oral sex to thousands of men. Saving themselves for marriage, they said.</span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><br></span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">Some went all the way and had operations to restore their hymens. </span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><br></span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">Is a dildo a sex machine? Do you lose your virginity that way? </span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><br></span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">A smart man would never choose a virgin. A virgin comes with no experience, of course, and has to learn from the man, who often did not trouble himself to learn to please women. And a virgin will have some curiosity about other men that an experienced woman would not have.</span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><br></span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">In fact, marrying a prostitute could be the best idea; you are not going to surprise her; you are not going to disappoint her. She will be able to teach you. This is great.</span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><br></span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">Most men, I am afraid, could not stand the comparison with other men, one of the virtues of the virgin. Yeah, you don't want to raise another man's child, but is that really the issue with virgins? I think not.</span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><br></span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">bill w</span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Sun, Nov 18, 2018 at 12:47 AM SR Ballard <<a href="mailto:sen.otaku@gmail.com">sen.otaku@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Would “optimal” sex machines count as “getting some”? Probably not any more than a prostitute does. However I think seeing a prostitute would still count as losing your virginity, where with a sex machine, I probably wouldn’t count it.<br>
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But yes, I think it would satisfy the physical drive. But I think that it might leave the emotional drive unsatisfied, much the same with Johns. Depending on the person, perhaps it might become dysfunctional. For example we might see people attacking sex robots much the same way people attack prostitutes. Which in and of itself is no issue, bust the escalation might be.<br>
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But that’s just speculation.<br>
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SR Ballard<br>
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> On Nov 17, 2018, at 11:24 PM, <<a href="mailto:spike@rainier66.com" target="_blank">spike@rainier66.com</a>> <<a href="mailto:spike@rainier66.com" target="_blank">spike@rainier66.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> We discussed the research last week. Apparently young people all over the<br>
> globe are having less sex.<br>
> <br>
> We can easily imagine reasons, but I have a question please. We don't<br>
> really have good optimal sex machines yet (oh thank you Keith, I love that<br>
> name) but we are getting there. It is easily foreseeable that they will be<br>
> with us in less than a decade (cue the voice of John Kennedy, remove the<br>
> moon business, replace with optimal sex machines.)<br>
> <br>
> How will that count? My intuition tells me it wouldn't or shouldn't count<br>
> as sex at all. But it would drain the drive, would it not?<br>
> <br>
> spike<br>
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