<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000">I am guilty and ashamed of myself - please forgive. I found one study (and did NOT read anything but the Abstract) and left it at that. Sorry. I will do so and consider your criticisms and try to answer your, now our, questions about obedience. A professional lapse. Getting lazy.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000">bill w</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 1:22 PM Stuart LaForge <<a href="mailto:avant@sollegro.com">avant@sollegro.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">BillW wrote:<br>
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> So you are saying, I think, that obedience is best obtained in a religious<br>
> context when the demands are given by a similarly religious person, and<br>
> not that obedience is more of a generalized tendency in religious persons<br>
> (which is what I thought you were saying first)<br>
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No actually you were right the first time. I am saying that religious<br>
people are more prone to obey those they percieve to have authority. The<br>
caveat however is that the authority must be perceived to be ligitimate.<br>
And that perception of legitimate authority is largely subjective. Thus<br>
someone who is very strongly religious (like a fundamentalist extremist)<br>
might not recognize secular authority (like a scientist) as being<br>
legitimate.<br>
<br>
This is merely a hypothesis on my part but it is largely the result of<br>
anecdotal evidence from observations of the religious people that I know.<br>
<br>
I don't consider the study you cited to be statistically sound enough to<br>
draw any real conclusions regarding my hypothesis upon, since it had a<br>
very small sample size. For example, the there were only 4 or 5 "extremely<br>
non-religious" students involved in the study.<br>
<br>
But the data does suggest my idea might have some merit. This could<br>
explain why nationalistic sentiments are often combined with religious<br>
sentiment as in "For God and country!", "God and King Richard!", and other<br>
such common phrases.<br>
<br>
Stuart LaForge<br>
<br>
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