<div dir="auto"><div><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Thu, Jan 3, 2019, 4:03 PM Stuart LaForge <<a href="mailto:avant@sollegro.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">avant@sollegro.com</a> wrote:</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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> I intuit that there is a dependence on information in another dimension<br>
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By dimension here, do you mean an extra dimension like an orthogonal axis<br>
added to 3+1 space-time to give an exclusive channel for quantum<br>
information to be shared between distant events? Or do you mean a separate<br>
space entirely like a platonic realm of bits and wave functions?<br></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I guess the distinction is one of scope or possibly bandwidth. A separate space would be 3 of those original axis taken as a tuple, right? :) maybe 3+1 is 6 taken as 3 + a checksum of another 3. Call it a spacetime RAID. many worlds is redundancy and the posited bifurcation in world lines is perspective-induced distortion. Idk, maybe it's analogous to the blind spot caused by the optic nerve that our processing equipment simply edited out of normal awareness. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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> or a relation to information that can only be transformed by certain<br>
> rules, which effectively externalizes context into the syntax and<br>
> grammar so the qubit itself is encoding information only when that<br>
> context is already understood.<br>
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Shannon information exists whether one understands the context or not. The<br>
raw byte code of your favorite movie in some video format is still<br>
information, even if you don't have the right video codec to play the<br>
movie. Semantics and meaning are relative but information itself seems to<br>
be absolute and independent of ones ability to understand it or even just<br>
see it. A closed book still contains information even if it is in a<br>
language you don't understand.<br></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Yeah, agreed. However, to strain the analogy some... you read 1984 when you were X years old. It contained a string of bytes that represembles the exact text authored by Orwell. You read it again when you are 2X years old; same exact bytes so it's the same information - but you experience a slightly different story thanks to additional X years of subjective context. You might also learn there is a steganographic encoding of another message inside those bytes. Knowing the cypher grants additional layers of story, perhaps even changing the A story because of the B story ... or does that simply create a C story? Or are we assuming the bytes already literally "mean" every permutation of cypher and harmonic/overtones possible for byte stream of length N? (Including resequencing bytes or groups of bytes)</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">This reminds me of a thought I had as a child: how many ways can you write the number 8? 4+4, 10-2, etc with all the ways you learned in 1st grade, but also 2^3 and sqrt(64) and such that you learn later. Also encodings like binary or hexadecimal. Etc. The point was that "8" is only one convention for how to express the idea of eight. Maybe this comes back to the Platonic realm?</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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> I just read an article on octonions, which<br>
> has a lot of words I don't know how to use but which gives new avenues<br>
> for thinking.<br>
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I am impressed as octanions are anything but easy. But if you can develop<br>
your understanding of them, you will well-poised to develop intuitions<br>
about low dimensional Hilbert spaces and single particle wave functions.<br>
So keep at it and the words will come to you.<br></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Thanks :)</div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"></blockquote></div></div></div>