<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><font size="4"><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">The data just doesn't support the claim made by the right that an advanced industrial country in the 21'th century can't afford to</span><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"> <span class="gmail_default">give medical care to its population.</span></span></font></div><div class="gmail_quote"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span class="gmail_default"><br></span></span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><span style="font-size:large;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)">John K Clark</span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000">Congress won't even let Medicare negotiate drug prices, and so those are much cheaper in Canada and elsewhere.  No doubt other health companies are getting sweet deals too.  And read books by Atul Gawande on inexplicable price differences between hospitals, etc.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000">bill w</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Feb 24, 2019 at 12:03 PM John Clark <<a href="mailto:johnkclark@gmail.com">johnkclark@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">On Wed, Feb 20, 2019 at 11:14 AM William Flynn Wallace <<a href="mailto:foozler83@gmail.com" target="_blank">foozler83@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</span><br></div></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr"><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><i><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">> </span>DEmocrats are proposing Medicare For All programs that are certainly liberal, probably radical, possibly unwise (me - way too much money for most of these,</i></blockquote><div><br></div><font size="4">Medicare For All wouldn't be too expensive if the USA didn't have the most inefficient health system on planet Earth<span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">, it spends FAR more money on health then anybody else but the people are quite simply not getting their </span><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">money's worth.</span> Japan<span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"> has</span> the longest <span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">lived </span><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">population</span> in the world and <span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">it</span> spend<span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">s</span> on average $4150 per person per year<span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"> on health, </span>Australia is #4 <span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">on the longest lived list </span>and <span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">it </span>spends $4420<span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">; as for the USA it's way down to #31 on the long lived list and yet it spends </span>$9451 per-person per-year on healthcare<span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"> and that is far more than anybody else. Something is obviously wrong with a health care system and it certainly isn't the Japanese. </span></font></div><div class="gmail_quote"><br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><font size="4"> Every one of the top 30 <span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">countries that beat the USA in </span>longevity have 2 things in common:</font></div><div class="gmail_quote"><font size="4"><br>1) They all spend <span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">FAR</span> less on healthcare than the USA does.<br>2) Unlike the USA they all have <span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">something very much like </span>Medicare For All<span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">.</span></font></div><div class="gmail_quote"><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><font size="4"><br></font></span></div><div class="gmail_quote"><font size="4"><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">The data just doesn't support the claim made by the right that an advanced industrial country in the 21'th century can't afford to</span><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"> <span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">give medical care to its population. </span></span></font></div><div class="gmail_quote"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></span></span></div><div class="gmail_quote"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><font size="4">John K Clark</font></span></span></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><br>
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