<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 9:30 AM Dave Sill <<a href="mailto:sparge@gmail.com">sparge@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</span><br></div></div><div class="gmail_quote"><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><div><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">> </span><i>You seem to think that the goal of health care is longer life</i></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><font size="4">It's not the only goal but it most certainly is a goal and it makes for a good metric to evaluate the quality of healthcare in various countries because you can put a precise number on the quantity of life but you can't do that with the quality of life. </font></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><i><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">> </span>but longevity is more about healthy living than it is about medical treatments.</i></blockquote><div><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style=""><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"></font><font size="4">The single most unhealthy thing you can do is smoke, it's more deadly than being overweight or exercising too little or drinking too much or driving without a seatbelt, and people in Canada, France, Finland, Denmark, Spain, Germany, Japan, South Korea, Luxembourg and the Netherlands all smoke more than people in the USA do, and yet they live longer and pay less. I don't see how the evidence cou<span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">ld get any clearer when it's screaming at you in the face, they do some things better than we do.</span></font></div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><div><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">> </span> <i>I think medicine in the US is expensive because medical insurers, medical corporations, and congress have, probably intentionally, worked together to make it a profit center. Drug makers don't benefit from cures, they benefit from keeping people on expensive prescriptions. Doctors get kickbacks for prescribing them. Congressmen no doubt get legal and illegal kickbacks, too.</i></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><font size="4">I'm sure that what you say above is also true of the 30 countries that pay less for healthcare and yet live longer so there must else that they do that the USA doesn't, and we both know what that is.</font></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><font size="4"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><font size="4">John K Clark</font></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><br>
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