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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> extropy-chat <extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org> <b>On Behalf Of </b>William Flynn Wallace<br><b>ubject:</b> Re: [ExI] safe if you are outside of california<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'>>…<span style='color:black'>I wish all states had laws and regulations for health and safety like California. I read a book by Edna Ferber about a caravan to Calif. Ended up in Yerba Buena (good grass - maybe they deserve the name back) - San Francisco. bill w<o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt'>On the contrary BillW. California’s Prop 65 is written in such a way as to nullify legitimate warnings on materials which can cause cancer or reproductive harm. In the old days, consumers could be fairly warned of such things. But since Prop 65, the law is written so broadly, any building or any product which contains any one of a long list of materials must have a Prop 65 warning. Result: all buildings, including doghouses, have Prop 65 warnings. This covers for those buildings which actually contain actual carcinogenic materials.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt'>For a while, there was a halfhearted effort on the part of some manufacturers to qualify for non-65 carrier, but even one lawsuit by the thriving lawsuit industry nullifies the effort. It is much cheaper to just slap the label on there, particularly since it doesn’t actually mean anything. Now even bottled water can cause cancer or reproductive harm:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt'><a href="https://www.sacbee.com/opinion/op-ed/soapbox/article77030402.html">https://www.sacbee.com/opinion/op-ed/soapbox/article77030402.html</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt'>We were warned.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt'>Perhaps we need legislation that requires a second label that goes on top of the universal Prop 65 cancer warning, which says something like “No really, this really does cause cancer.” Then it would go only on those materials or products which really does cause cancer and reproductive harm. Then we can go round two, suing those manufacturers which caused cancer and had only the first warning but not the second one, so the hapless victim had no way of knowing, with only the universal Prop 65 warning, of the risk.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt'>spike<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Thu, Feb 28, 2019 at 9:22 PM <<a href="mailto:spike@rainier66.com">spike@rainier66.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I was looking at washing machines today. I found out that this machine inside California causes cancer and reproductive harm. But if you take it outside California, apparently it is safe out there.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>That’s it, I’m moving.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>spike<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><h4 style='margin-top:7.5pt;background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#353535'>Configuration and Overview</span><o:p></o:p></h4><ul type=disc><li class=MsoNormal style='color:#353535;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1;background:#EDEDED;box-sizing:border-box'><b><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>ADA Compliant</span></b><o:p></o:p></li></ul><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:.5in;background:#EDEDED'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#353535'>No</span><o:p></o:p></p><ul type=disc><li class=MsoNormal style='color:#353535;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2;background:white;box-sizing:border-box'><b><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>CEE Tier</span></b><o:p></o:p></li></ul><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:.5in;background:white'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#353535'>Not Rated</span><o:p></o:p></p><ul type=disc><li class=MsoNormal style='color:#353535;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo3;background:#EDEDED;box-sizing:border-box'><b><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Prop 65</span></b><o:p></o:p></li></ul><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:.5in;background:#EDEDED'><img border=0 width=32 height=32 style='width:.3333in;height:.3333in' id="_x0000_i1025" src="cid:image001.png@01D4D000.1F6272B0" alt="Prop 65 warning"><b><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#353535'>CALIFORNIA RESIDENTS ONLY - WARNING: </span></b><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#353535'>Cancer and Reproductive Harm - <a href="https://www.p65warnings.ca.gov/" target="_blank"><span style='color:#5B5B5B'>www.P65Warnings.ca.gov</span></a>.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________<br>extropy-chat mailing list<br><a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.extropy.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/extropy-chat" target="_blank">http://lists.extropy.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/extropy-chat</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div></div></body></html>