<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000">While I do not care who has my phone conversations, email, street address, etc., I am disturbed by the influx of cameras. Nothing, not even nuclear war, disturbs me as much as a police state. Since crime, particularly petty crime, is rampant, there will have to be many more policemen and people watching all the videos. I just don't want to pay for all of that. Some obsessive gets to a high level and wants to find and destroy every single criminal - that's a nightmare.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000">I do want criminals and wanted people caught and dealt with, so maybe I am a hypocrite here. But how would feel if you were in public places and always on some camera? Makes playing pocket pool nearly impossible! And what if some chemist designs something swallowed that makes farts in color? Then you can't do that in public either! Imagine your picture when your picture with a big green cloud behind you go viral on the web? (Yes, I am aware of Ben Franklin's efforts to make farts smell good.)</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000">On another subject: I suggest diapers for cows that absorb the methane, then burned in some way to save energy. Collecting the bags opens up a completely new job description ("I'm in the gas business" or "I am in bovine chemistry" .) and so will boost the economy. (long ago there was a big put-on (can't think of the word) where a guy gets on the Carson show and advocates bras for cows - for modesty.)</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000">bill w</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Mar 3, 2019 at 4:16 PM <<a href="mailto:spike@rainier66.com" target="_blank">spike@rainier66.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US"><div class="gmail-m_4937352704627410517gmail-m_-3597182391890331193WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>John Clark<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, March 3, 2019 1:45 PM<br><b>To:</b> ExI chat list <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [ExI] solution to the world ending<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Sun, Mar 3, 2019 at 3:05 PM <<a href="mailto:spike@rainier66.com" target="_blank">spike@rainier66.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><blockquote style="border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="gmail-m_4937352704627410517gmail-m_-3597182391890331193gmaildefault"><i><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">> </span></i></span><i>she has a plan to get rid of airplanes and cows.</i><u></u><u></u></p></blockquote><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="gmail-m_4937352704627410517gmail-m_-3597182391890331193gmaildefault"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">So says Trump State Television (aka Fox news).</span></span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="gmail-m_4937352704627410517gmail-m_-3597182391890331193gmaildefault"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"> John K Clark </span></span><span style="font-size:13.5pt"> </span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">NPR, ja, always promoting POTUS dontchaknow.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Page 2 of 6:<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://apps.npr.org/documents/document.html?id=5729035-Green-New-Deal-FAQ" target="_blank">https://apps.npr.org/documents/document.html?id=5729035-Green-New-Deal-FAQ</a><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">The exact quote in the Green New Deal document released by Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez:<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">“…We set a goal to get to net-zero, rather than zero emissions in 10 years because we aren’t sure we’ll be able to fully get rid of farting cows and airplanes that fast…”<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">OK then. My question for Green New Dealers: if we are shooting for net-zero emissions rather than zero emissions, why would we need to get rid of either farting cows or planes? If we are shooting for net zero, that shouldn’t be hard to do. We might be able to do it without any really significant changes in our style really. We would need to divert a lot, a looooot of fresh water inland. We would need to stop dumping fresh water into the sea. We could use that water to support something really bio-massy like kudzu. This would draw down so much CO2, we could make it to carbon emissions net zero that way. We could keep our farting cows and planes and still make it.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">spike<u></u><u></u></p></div></div></div></div></div>_______________________________________________<br>
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