<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><font size="4">I think examples are far more important than definitions. Intelligence is the that quality of mind that  Albert Einstein had and Donald Trump doesn't. </font></span></div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><font size="4"><br></font></span></div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><font size="4">John K Clark  </font></span></div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><font size="4"><br></font></span></div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><font size="4">But of what are those people examples?  You must have some definition in mind to choose those people.  The definition comes first, then the deduction to the example.  bill w</font></span></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Mar 30, 2019 at 7:42 PM John Clark <<a href="mailto:johnkclark@gmail.com">johnkclark@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Mar 30, 2019 at 6:26 PM William Flynn Wallace <<a href="mailto:foozler83@gmail.com" target="_blank">foozler83@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr"><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large"><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">>></span> intelligence theories can be tested </span><span class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:large;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">but </span><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">consciousness theories can't be,  John Clark</span></blockquote><div style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large"><br></span></div><div style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><span class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">> </span><i>OH?  And why is that?   </i></span></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><font size="4">i can't say why but I can say how. Consciousness theories are too easy to come up with, they're easy because there are few facts they need to fit given the fact that the only entity that I know for a fact to be conscious is me<span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">.</span> Intelligence theories are devilishly hard to come up with but there is a easy way to test them<span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">;</span> if your AI companies intelligence theory is a good one you'll become a billionaire<span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"> and</span> if its not good you'll go broke.</font><br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><span style="line-height:1.5"> </span><br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><i><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">> </span>Before you reply, I"ll say this:  everything depends on the definitions.  bill w</i></span></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><font size="4">I disagree, I think examples are far more important than definitions. Intelligence is the that quality of mind that  Albert Einstein had and Donald Trump doesn't. </font></span></div><div><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><font size="4"><br></font></span></div><div><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><font size="4">John K Clark  </font></span> </div><div><br></div><div> </div></div></div></div></div>
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