<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000">I think it's naive because open borders everywhere would create world-wide chaos - people going to the first world countries, overwhelming the systems - boatloads of people from Bangladesh, Kenya, Indonesia and scores more. And the places they left would not be able to function at all. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000">Central America and Mexico, for one region, would nearly empty into Texas, New Mexico, and so on. I believe in freedom and in ideals, but I also believe in reality, and the reality is that open borders would never, ever work from a practical point of view. Convince me otherwise.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000">Iealism bill w</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 1:47 PM Dan TheBookMan <<a href="mailto:danust2012@gmail.com">danust2012@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div dir="ltr">On May 15, 2019, at 10:25 AM, William Flynn Wallace <<a href="mailto:foozler83@gmail.com" target="_blank">foozler83@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">People should be free to peacefully migrate wherever they please rather than wherever some ruling elite decides (whether that decision involves a voting majority or whatnot). </div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><div style="line-height:normal"><span style="line-height:20px;background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Regards,</span></div><div style="line-height:normal"><span style="line-height:20px;background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><br></span></div><div><div style="line-height:normal"><span style="line-height:20px;background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Dan</span></div></div><div style="line-height:normal"><span style="line-height:20px;background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><br></span></div><div style="line-height:normal"><span style="line-height:20px;background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">You accuse others of being naive, but the above is the most naive thing I have seen since I joined this group.</span></div><div style="line-height:normal"><span style="line-height:20px;background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">bill w</span></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><br><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Curious how you ignored the first part of my paragraph.... You know, the part where I state: “Since others have raised it here too, the libertarian position on immigration is open borders or, rather, no borders.” Don’t you feel that maybe that has some relevance here? </span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><br></span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">But let me ignore that. Why do you believe the part you quoted is naive? To guess, perhaps you believe I think the libertarian position is popular or could somehow become policy in the US soon (in the next five years). No, I think the libertarian position is unpopular and would be very unlucky to become the policy in the US anytime soon. (I don’t believe it’s impossible for it ever become popular or _the_ policy. After all, people’s views can change and so can other factors. But I don’t believe that simply because I think something is the right thing to do that others will necessarily both agree with and agree with me enough to impact policy.)<br><br></span><div dir="ltr"><div style="line-height:normal"><div style="line-height:normal"><span style="line-height:20px;background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Regards,</span></div><div style="line-height:normal"><span style="line-height:20px;background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><br></span></div><div><div style="line-height:normal"><span style="line-height:20px;background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Dan</span></div><div style="line-height:normal"><span style="line-height:20px;background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"> Sample my Kindle books at:</span></div><div style="line-height:normal"><p style="margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;line-height:normal"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><a href="http://author.to/DanUst" target="_blank">http://author.to/DanUst</a></span></p></div></div></div><div><div style="line-height:normal"></div></div></div></div></div>_______________________________________________<br>
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