<div dir="ltr"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;line-height:normal;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Once the emerging <a href="https://canonizer.com/topic/81-Mind-Experts/1" style="color:blue">expert consensus</a> “<a href="https://canonizer.com/topic/88-Representational-Qualia/6" style="color:blue">Representational
Qualia Theory</a>” information becomes far more understood and accepted by the
masses. Intelligent people, at least
will understand how we can objectively know the difference between these <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YnTMoU2LKER78bjVJsGkxMsSwvhpPBJZvp9e2oJX9GA/edit?usp=sharing" style="color:blue">3
robots that are functionally the same</a>, but qualitatively and
emotionally very different. Abstract AIs
deserve no compassion, no matter how they behave.</span></p></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 1:59 PM William Flynn Wallace <<a href="mailto:foozler83@gmail.com">foozler83@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">I told Spike about Ted Chiang's new collection of stories and maybe some of you read his stuff. A long, 110 page story is about software and AIs as pets and more -book is Exhalation. bill w</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 2:41 PM Dave Sill <<a href="mailto:sparge@gmail.com" target="_blank">sparge@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">It goes back farther than that:<div><br></div><div><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luxo_Jr." target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luxo_Jr.</a><br></div><div><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4NPQ8mfKU0" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4NPQ8mfKU0</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>And that's not even the beginning.</div><div><br></div><div>-Dave</div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 3:08 PM Darin Sunley <<a href="mailto:dsunley@gmail.com" target="_blank">dsunley@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div>It goes back farther than that.<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">The IKEA ad with the lamp, having been thrown out, sitting on the curb in the rain, camera angle carefully chosen to make it look like it's staring forlornly up through the window to its former place in the warm happy room where its replacement now shines, to increasingly despondent music.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Then the spokesman steps into the shot and chides the audience. "Some of you are feeling sorry for this lamp. That's because you are crazy. It has no feelings, and the new one is much better."</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">People can be made to anthropomorphize anything, and the more complex its behaviour, the easier it is.</div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Jun 21, 2019, 10:06 AM William Flynn Wallace <<a href="mailto:foozler83@gmail.com" target="_blank">foozler83@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">If you watch TV, you may have seen the commercial with the athletic robot, who hits golf balls, etc., then stops outside a bar and watches the people drink, and then slumps as if to say 'that's what I really want - companionship'.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">If you have seen it, did you feel anything for the robot at all? A bit of pity, perhaps?</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">Clearly that was intended. Was it successful?</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">This is only the very beginning of programming the AIs to elicit responses in us.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">bill w</div></div>
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