<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">I haven’t read the article, but do you believe that “<span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><span class="gmail_default">N</span>o-limit Texas Hold<span class="gmail_default"> Em is the most complex and popular form of poker...”? Maybe the “and” is important here, though I get the feeling that it’s not being taken that way. For my money, I believe </span><span class="gmail_default">N</span>o-limit Texas Hold<span class="gmail_default"> Em isn’t the most complex form of poker, and I don’t mean that in a trivial manner — as in I can take </span><span class="gmail_default">N</span>o-limit Texas Hold<span class="gmail_default"> Em and bolt on ever more arbitrary rules — deuces wild, the blind falls randomly, etc. (Of course, even standard rules are arbitrary.) I would think a game like Omaha/8 is a popular poker game that’s much more complex than Texas Hold Em.</span><span class="gmail_default"><br></span></span><br><div id="AppleMailSignature" dir="ltr"><div style="line-height: normal;"><div style="line-height: normal;"><span style="line-height: 20px; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Regards,</span></div><div style="line-height: normal;"><span style="line-height: 20px; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></div><div><div style="line-height: normal;"><span style="line-height: 20px; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Dan</span></div><div style="line-height: normal;"><span style="line-height: 20px; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"> Sample my Kindle books at:</span></div><div style="line-height: normal;"><p style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-family: Helvetica;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><a href="http://author.to/DanUst">http://author.to/DanUst</a></span></p></div></div></div><div><div style="line-height: normal;"></div></div></div><div dir="ltr"><br>On Jul 16, 2019, at 2:08 PM, John Clark <<a href="mailto:johnkclark@gmail.com">johnkclark@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><font size="4"><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">N</span>o-limit Texas Hold<span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"> Em is the most complex and popular form of poker and </span><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">2 years ago</span><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"> a </span>AI <span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">was reported that</span> <span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">could</span> beat the best human player at <span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">it, </span><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">but in last Thursday's issue of the journal Science there was a development that was new for 3 reasons<span class="gmail_default">:</span></span></font><br></div><div><div><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></span></span></div><div><font size="4"><span class="gmail_default" style=""><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">1) </font></span>Previously the AI could win only at one on one play but this new program <span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">(called </span>Pluribus<span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">) </span><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">could play at a superhuman level against </span><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">multiple</span><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"> human expert players and win</font><span class="gmail_default"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">, and that is much more difficult than one on one play.</font></span></font></div><div><br></div><div><span class="gmail_default" style=""><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><font size="4">2) The program started out knowing almost nothing about Poker but taught itself to play at a superhuman level in 8 days and did it without human help.</font></font></span></div><div><span class="gmail_default" style=""><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><br></font></span></div><div><div><font size="4"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span class="gmail_default">3</span>) Unlike previous programs this <span class="gmail_default">one does not require massive computing power for the training or for the actual play, it</span></span><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"> can all be done on a normal </span><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">home PC.</span></font></div></div><div><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></span></div><div><span class="gmail_default" style=""><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"></font></span></div><div><font size="4">I</font><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><font size="4">t's stuff like this that makes me think my previous no compromise libertarian philosophy just isn't tenable anymore when dealing with economic issues.</font></span></div><div><br></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><font size="4"><a href="https://science.sciencemag.org/content/early/2019/07/10/science.aay2400">Superhuman AI for multiplayer poker</a> <br></font></div></div></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><font size="4"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><font size="4">John K Clark </font></div></div>
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