<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">On Sat, Aug 31, 2019 at 9:07 AM SR Ballard via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:</span><br></div></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr"><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div><span></span></div><div><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><font color="#000000" style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)" size="4"><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">>> </span>Not if you count those who vent their anger against me.</font></blockquote></div></div><div><br></div><i><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">> </span>No. If you feel that way, then please prove it.</i></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><font size="4">I need only to point at the very post I'm responding to right now.</font></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><font size="4"><br></font></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote"><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><i><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">> </span>They don’t seem very violent to me.</i></span></blockquote><div><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><font size="4">For the first time in over 50 years the entire observatory was shut down and shut down for an entire month, do you think they did that for no reason? The astronomers shut everything down because they were intimidated by violence and the threat of violence and because they knew the police would not protect them from barbarians despite what the law says. </font></div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div><i><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">> </span>You accuse people who dislike the term barbarian to be dangerously flirting with newspeak. That’s not the case. <span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">“a person from an alien land, culture, or group believed to be inferior, uncivilized, or violent </span></i></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style=""><font size="4"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Then my usage of the word "</font>barbarians" was entirely correct because the criminals who destroyed the Thirty Meter Telescope and prevented new knowledge from entering the world were certainly uncivilized and violent and morally inferior to people who did not want the Thirty Meter Telescope destroyed and craved new knowledge.</font></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><br></span></div><div class="gmail_default" style=""><font size="4">And I note that this is yet another post that is all about me. Despite your earlier claim to be more angry at the protestors than with me this much longer post goes on and on about my moral and intellectual failings but contains not one word of criticism for the thugs who destroyed the Thirty Meter Telescope, in fact you say good things about them "They don’t seem very violent to me" and "They are part of a civilization" and " they don’t seem to be personally rude" and "I haven’t heard any crass jokes".</font></div><div class="gmail_default" style=""><font size="4"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default" style=""><font size="4">As for me, there is nothing good to say about me.</font></div><div class="gmail_default" style=""><font size="4"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default" style=""><font size="4">John K Clark</font></div><div> </div>
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