<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><br><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000">But I don't want to see 'elite' become a dirty word.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000">bill w</div></div><br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Unfortunately, it already is, and has been as long as I’ve been able to understand that type of nuance. </div><div><br></div><div>Elite is used in mainly two contexts “the elite” which is an extremely loaded, negative statement, or a self-aggrandizing one, and “an elite ____”, where the blank is usually a martial reference, such as “fighting force”, “sniper”, “martial artist”. Only occasionally would it refer to other things in a matter-of-fact, non-judgemental way. </div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 8:31 PM Rafal Smigrodzki via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 2:02 AM Stuart LaForge via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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The telescope is only a casualty if the money is spent somewhere else. <br>
If astronomers are patient, they may not have to settle for the second <br>
best locale.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>### So any harm is the astronomers' fault, after all. </div><div><br></div><div>OK.</div><div> -----------------</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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> ### It takes two sides to have a game. If the umpire says they lost <br>
> but they still go up a mountain and harass the winners, they are no <br>
> sportsmen, and they should not be treated as such. What we see there <br>
> is not a game, it's a dirty fight. --------------<br>
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Game or dirty fight, they are winning this round because federal law <br>
is on their side:<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>### Really?</div><div><br></div><div> OK.</div><div><br></div><div>----------------------</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><br>
We must reconcile with the native Hawaiians or risk violating our own <br>
laws to remove them from the mountain by force. That is the reality of <br>
the situation for the time being.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>### "We" need to reconcile with violent lawbreakers?</div><div><br></div><div>OK.</div><div><br></div><div>So let me ask you just one political question:</div><div><br></div><div>On whose side are you?</div><div><br></div><div>Rafal</div></div></div>
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