<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)">In fact, there’s a tour guide and you’re not really allowed on most of the factory floor. (Which is a good thing as I don’t want tourists sneezing or getting their body hairs in my chocolate.;)</span><br style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><br style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><div dir="ltr" style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"><div style="line-height:normal"><div style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;line-height:normal"><span style="line-height:20px;background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Regards,</span></div><div style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;line-height:normal"><span style="line-height:20px;background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><br></span></div><div style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><div style="line-height:normal"><span style="line-height:20px;background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Dan</span></div></div><div style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;line-height:normal"><span style="line-height:20px;background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><br></span></div><div style="line-height:normal"><span style="line-height:20px;background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif">You do know that most things have an acceptable level of rat hairs and feces?  Ditto roaches?</font></span></div><div style="line-height:normal"><span style="line-height:20px;background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif">bill w</font></span></div></div></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Sep 20, 2019 at 1:25 PM Dan TheBookMan via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">You seem to have a different concept of “unfettered.” Presumably, SR meant unfettered in the conventional sense: access which is _uncontrolled_ by others in terms of both scope and timing. The way you use the term would mean that something like a public tour of the Theo Chocolate factory in Seattle is ”unfettered access.” In fact, there’s a tour guide and you’re not really allowed on most of the factory floor. (Which is a good thing as I don’t want tourists sneezing or getting their body hairs in my chocolate.;)<br><br><div dir="ltr"><div style="line-height:normal"><div style="line-height:normal"><span style="line-height:20px;background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Regards,</span></div><div style="line-height:normal"><span style="line-height:20px;background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><br></span></div><div><div style="line-height:normal"><span style="line-height:20px;background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Dan</span></div><div style="line-height:normal"><span style="line-height:20px;background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">   Sample my Kindle books at:</span></div><div style="line-height:normal"><p style="margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;font-size:12px;line-height:normal;font-family:Helvetica"><span style="font-size:12pt"><a href="http://author.to/DanUst" target="_blank">http://author.to/DanUst</a></span></p></div></div></div><div><div style="line-height:normal"></div></div></div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Sep 20, 2019, at 10:36 AM, John Clark via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">On Fri, Sep 20, 2019 at 1:04 PM SR Ballard via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:</span></div></div><div class="gmail_quote"><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">>> </span>From the law you quote it seems to me that 'access to the site' does not include sole possession of it or ability to determine the use of it.  Just access.  bill w</div></div></div><div><br></div><div><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">> </span>Are they allowed unfettered access to the insides of the observatories, and the surrounding land?</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><font size="4">Not only do the native Hawaiians have <span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">unfettered access everybody does, they give public tours of the observatory, or rather they did before the barbarian attack. The astronomers need courage to visit their observatory now and I doubt their insurance would allow public tours anymore because of potential liability claims.</span></font></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><font size="4"><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><br></span></font></div><font size="4">By the way, protesting telescopes has <span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">n</span>ow become <span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"></span>fashionable<span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"> and apparently looks like fun to a lot of people</span>. In La Palma on the Canary Islands (the distant second best observing site in the northern hemisphere) for the first time protesters <span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">have appeared and they </span><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">are </span>determined to stop any telescope being built <span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">on their mountain too</span>. And so the ignorance plague spreads. </font></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><font size="4">John K Clark</font></span></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div>_______________________________________________<br>
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