<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 3:04 AM John Grigg via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">
<div>As the technological edge the U.S. has with
it's military, continues to slip, what should America do to maintain the
advantage?</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>The US government and military/industrial complex are so broken I don't think anything short of rebuilding from scratch will work...and that's both highly unlikely to happen and extremely unlikely to work. We've spent obscene amounts on defense but haven't won a war in decades. We've got hundreds of military bases around the world. We kill more innocents than "combatents". We've become the evil empire.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div> If Iran, a second or third tier rival, is a problem for us,</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>They're not a threat. That's BS intended to scare us into spending more on defense and giving up more liberties.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>
how do we prepare for a possible conflict with a resurgent China?</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>We stand no chance against China if comes to war.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div> Do we
improve the range and stealth capacity of our anti-ship missiles? Build
more advanced drones for destroying enemy aircraft, missiles, aquatic
mines and subs? Create a new form of stealth tech, should China's
"quantum radar" prove to be effective? Install laser weapons on all our
larger vessels, to stop hordes of incoming planes and missiles? Build
more destroyers, to lessen the urgent need to use our carriers? Deploy
massive rail guns for very long range bombardments (which could be nice
for leveling artificial islands in the South China Sea)? Have a 21st
century return to the battleship, through this technology? Oh, and what
about improving private corporate security measures, so our research and
development efforts are not stolen by China's very effective espionage
machine?<br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>In a tech war, China will win, too. </div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>I have a Russian "frenemy" online,
who would mock me by saying the problem with the American military
industrial complex, is that it throws huge amounts of money at various
weapons programs, but the private companies who take up the contracts,
are not fully held accountable. And so after a vast budget is spent,
they may not have any real solid results, to show for it. <br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>He's right.</div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>What are your thoughts?</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>We're fucked, and, unfortunately, we deserve it.</div><div><br></div><div>-Dave </div></div></div>