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<div dir="ltr">On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 11:01 PM Will Steinberg via
extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>>
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<div>You took the words out of my mouth! Unfortunately the ExI
list, for all its positives, is not really a good spiritual
resonance chamber. I've got the idea that a lot of people
here may be stuck at the skeptic/atheist phase, instead of
pushing on to ask more deeply about the nature of reality and
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Speaking for myself, at least, I'd say that saying someone is 'stuck
at the skeptic/atheist phase', while talking about the nature of
reality (the wording "reality AND consciousness" is revealing, in my
opinion, by the way) is rather like saying 'stuck at the
wordprocessor stage' when talking about writing. Perhaps there will
be better ways of writing things in the future, but going back to
quill pens and parchment isn't one of them.<br>
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Although that's not a very good analogy. At least we have a clear
idea of what quill pens and parchment are, that just about everyone
will agree on. Could even as few as ten different people give a
consistent and clear definition of 'spirituality', in terms that
don't fall into wooly ambiguity and superstition, and agree with
each other?<br>
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What's next? Are we going to hear the claim that ExI members are
'stuck' using the best mental tool we have discovered so far for
investigating the nature of reality? The only one that has been
demonstrated unequivocally to actually work? (I'm sure I don't have
to name it to you guys).<br>
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Of course the ExI list is not a good spiritual resonance chamber.
Neither is it a good place for swapping tips on sympathetic magic,
or discussing the finer details of crystal healing (although it can
become a bit of a sounding-board for american politics, sometimes!).<br>
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Ben Zaiboc</pre>
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