<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Dec 14, 2019 at 2:53 PM spike jones via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US"><div class="gmail-m_4420718146381852952WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Adrian Tymes via extropy-chat<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [ExI] housing again, was RE: sex again<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">>…To take the example of that apartment, no dishwasher - just the sink - and a single professional female adult moved in quite readily, not stretching disbelief in the slightest. Likewise, very few electric kitchen gadgets: we see her using a microwave oven, and that's it. She does not demonstrate advanced cooking skills; if she wants a cake, she would buy one, not make it…<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">I don't know if this is in keeping with the original question. Outsourcing was done since Tarzan hired Cheetah to go get bananas. Outsourcing does not reflect the results of technology.</span></p></div></div></div></blockquote><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US"><div class="gmail-m_4420718146381852952WordSection1"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"></span><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Exactly what I was thinking: so much can be outsourced, including food, nearly all food. A small refrigerator, a toaster for the pop-tarts, microwave for nearly everything else. That doesn’t take much space. <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">This would be OK for me if I were 95 and had lost every single one of my taste buds and all of my nose receptors.</span></p></div></div></div></blockquote><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US"><div class="gmail-m_4420718146381852952WordSection1"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"></span><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Lawn maintenance can all be outsourced, and should be. <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Laundry can be outsourced or certainly minimized. <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Car maintenance, out. Remember all the tools and stuff we used to need to keep our cars running, never mind the real junkyard dogs many of us drove in our misspent youth: even new cars needed attention and tweaking. Now they don’t. <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Do you need a TV? I don’t: the computer gets you exactly what you want and need with actual control. <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">The computer doesn't really compete with a big TV.</span></p></div></div></div></blockquote><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US"><div class="gmail-m_4420718146381852952WordSection1"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"></span><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Do you need a stereo system? Those little Bluetooth speakers are remarkably competent and compact. <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">Yeah if you don't care about getting any bass. Highly irregular response dropping off below 200 cps from little speakers (Bose is the best of the small, I found) No one fond of high fidelity would accept that. You might as well use earbuds.</span></p></div></div></div></blockquote><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US"><div class="gmail-m_4420718146381852952WordSection1"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Do you need a printer? Why? Filing cabinet? Why? Scan your documents on your flatbed and keep them forever where you can find them.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Do you need a bookshelf? Indeed? Out.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">I will admit that if you just don't like books tech provides Kindle etc. Only my bathroom doesn't have book shelves despite my giving away hundreds of books in the last couple of years. And Kindle, aside from the search function, has far few features than a book.</span></p></div></div></div></blockquote><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US"><div class="gmail-m_4420718146381852952WordSection1"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"></span><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Do you need to entertain and have big parties at your house? Can’t you do your social life online like regular people do now, and we socially awkward types have already done for as long as it became practical. Then once in a while if you really need to have a party, you can do it at some public venue, such as Berkeley or preferably somewhere less scary than that.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">Again - no reflection of the effect of tech here.</span></p></div></div></div></blockquote><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US"><div class="gmail-m_4420718146381852952WordSection1"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"></span><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Garages: lotta space under a roof, ja? On the west side of the Bay, area under a roof is worth four digits per square foot. Park it in the street, make an apartment out of all that half a million bucks worth of climate-controlled floor.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">ditto</span></p></div></div></div></blockquote><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US"><div class="gmail-m_4420718146381852952WordSection1"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Keep in mind: plenty of moderns get some really exciting jobs. Especially the singles spend more time at the office than at home, which explains why offices keep getting nicer and nicer, but homes don’t.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">We have developed plenty of technologies which can keep us comfortable in a lot less floor area than we used to need.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">Yeah, if you like being cooped up like a resident of Tokyo. I do not regard reducing space as any kind of improvement whatever. Maybe for the plebes. I shudder at having to live like that. It reminds me of having to go to a nursing home. I may not do that even if I have to. bill w</span><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">spike<u></u><u></u></p></div></div></div>_______________________________________________<br>
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