<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">I don’t know why we need to bring slurs into this, but, from an evolutionary perspective, being trans (and getting surgery for it, rendering oneself unable to reproduce) would cause it to be self-limiting and therefore not something to worry about in the long term. <div><br></div><div>It’s simply a fact of life.</div><div><br></div><div>I, myself, find myself somewhere “stuck in the middle”. Not trans enough for surgery to do any good, not cis enough to be comfortable. What is there to do for it? <br><br><div dir="ltr">SR Ballard</div><div dir="ltr"><br>On Dec 14, 2019, at 4:34 AM, Rafal Smigrodzki via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Dec 14, 2019 at 1:16 AM Will Steinberg via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr"><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote" dir="auto"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">doesn't mean being trans is bad. People can do whatever they want. </div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>### Let me riff off that a bit.</div><div><br></div><div>Being transgender may be not bad, in the sense of not being as intrinsically wrong as is torturing dogs for fun. But from a social standpoint it is a form of behavioral disability, and thus not desirable. A point of view that values the survival and success of a society is necessarily strongly heteronormative because heterosexual couples as much better at creating stable, efficient and successful families, where success is measures in the number and quality of their offspring. Evolutionary fitness of trannies is severely impaired, especially in the modern world that offers gonad-removal services. In this context the biological traits that differentiate actual trans-sexuals from normal people are properly seen as derangements rather than neutral or beneficial traits. The same pertains to the memes and ideologies that create would-be trans-sexuals out of mildly disturbed individuals </div><div><br></div><div>We libertarians live and let live. We would not censure a tranny for being a tranny but we don't approve of them either.</div></div></div>
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