<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Dec 14, 2019 at 8:12 PM BillK via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On Sun, 15 Dec 2019 at 00:33, Keith Henson via extropy-chat<br>
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> That's not what the contemporary probate records show. Over that<br>
> time, the well off genetically displaced the poor. See the section on<br>
> "downward social mobility.". True, the poor had children, but they<br>
> died in droves in the frequent famines. I probably can't get you to<br>
> read "genetically capitalist". but if you are not going to read it,<br>
> should you be making unjustified comments?<br>
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> Clark makes the case that it was genetics, particularly such traits as<br>
> being willing to wait for a reward and whatever human genes are behind<br>
> literacy and numeracy.<br>
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> The selection was as intense as that applied to the tame Russian foxes.<br>
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As you well know, Clark's claims have been much criticised.<br>
He is not a geneticist, he is an economist. He has no genetic evidence<br>
at all for his claims.<br>
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<<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Farewell_to_Alms" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Farewell_to_Alms</a>><br>
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Doubtless the rich enjoy being told that they deserve to be rich due<br>
to superior genetics and the poor deserve to live in poverty.<br><br></blockquote><div>### There is strong evidence for genetic selection in the past 10 000 years, in fact, in that period human evolution kicked into overdrive. </div><div><br></div><div>Whether the poor deserve to live in poverty is a normative question, but whether genetics explains poverty is a question of fact and it's rather extensively answered in multiple peer-reviewed publications. The poor are less intelligent, less conscientious, more impulsive than the non-poor (middle class and the rich), and yes, these traits explain poverty. </div><div><br></div><div>Rafal</div></div></div>