<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000">Needs? Whose needs? Just answer this question:</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000">What are the things that a house (we are ignoring the outside, the yard, right?) has to have for a women to move into it. We can omit those things that our forefathers (foremothers?) would have said, like running water and electricity and a no-dirt floor. bill w</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Dec 14, 2019 at 11:40 AM spike jones via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><br>
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Subject: RE: [ExI] sex again<br>
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From: extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org</a>> On Behalf Of<br>
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Subject: Re: [ExI] sex again<br>
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On Sat, 14 Dec 2019 at 15:43, spike jones via extropy-chat<br>
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> Move to the Bay Area? This place is already the Star Wars Bar when it<br>
comes to diversity. Others will already be comfortable with whatever you<br>
want to be.<br>
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Surely you jest? At those prices?<br>
<<a href="https://www.newser.com/story/283270/to-afford-the-bay-area-he-lived-in-32-square-feet.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.newser.com/story/283270/to-afford-the-bay-area-he-lived-in-32-s<br>
quare-feet.html</a>><br>
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>...BillK, I will certainly admit life in the fast lane has is compromises.<br>
It was a big step down in standard of living for my bride and me when we<br>
came to the Bay in 1989. Our living arrangements went from this:<br>
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<a href="https://dianaoverbey.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/highclerecastle.jpg" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://dianaoverbey.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/highclerecastle.jpg</a><br>
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to this:<br>
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<a href="https://www.ocregister.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/0415-sjm-l-birdave-0413-1.jpg?w=467" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.ocregister.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/0415-sjm-l-birdave-041<br>
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The second link didn't come thru before. Trying again:<br>
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<a href="https://www.ocregister.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/0415-sjm-l-birdave-0413-1.jpg?w=467" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.ocregister.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/0415-sjm-l-birdave-041<br>
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I have been toying with an idea I wanted to bounce offa you.<br>
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Things are very different now than when I started engineering. At Lockheeed<br>
often a ranking engineer would have his desk, a drawing board, a flat file<br>
(ja I know you went to google because you never saw one of those), a<br>
typewriter desk, filing cabinets, a safe (for classified documents) a<br>
cabinet for drafting tools, perhaps several other pieces of equipment modern<br>
engineers couldn't even name and had never seen.<br>
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In my last assignment at that company, I inherited the office of Jerry<br>
Wozniak, who retired a multimillionaire for reasons having little to do with<br>
this job there but you likely already know by his name. We got rid of most<br>
of the outdated equipment in there and moved more guys in. There were four<br>
engineers in that office and we still had pleeeeennnty of room. We even<br>
kept Jerry's outdated filing cabinet just because it had his name on it.<br>
Hell of a nice guy he was. Never a bit crowded in that office with the four<br>
engineers desks and some of Jerry's old stuff.<br>
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Reason: that list of stuff from Jerry Wozniak's era was all made obsolete by<br>
Jerry's son's invention.<br>
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OK then, let's think it over and see if our housing needs were reduced by<br>
technology. I would argue that they are. <br>
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Before I present my notions, I will offer a chance for you to think it over<br>
and post ideas.<br>
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spike<br>
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