<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">I’m not sure that’s true. I went to some protests when I was younger that I’m not so sure I would go to today, if there was an exact same one.<div><br></div><div>In this instance: Tea Party, Occupy, etc. knowing what I know now about how they turned out. </div><div><br></div><div>Would probably still do FNB and worker’s rights though. <br><br><div dir="ltr">SR Ballard</div><div dir="ltr"><br>On Dec 26, 2019, at 3:00 PM, William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">Adrian wrote - <span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)">In other words, mere blind opposition of opposing views will not work in some cases. This is one of them.</span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><img class="gmail-ajT" src="https://ssl.gstatic.com/ui/v1/icons/mail/images/cleardot.gif" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; color: rgb(34, 34, 34); background: url("https://www.gstatic.com/images/icons/material/system/2x/more_horiz_black_20dp.png") 50% 50% / 20px no-repeat; height: 11px; opacity: 0.7; width: 24px;"></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">I don't think that will ever work. People do flip to an entirely different view, but this is really rare, especially if the views are strong enough to support going to a demonstration or protest. They need to be moved little by little (like Skinner's successive approximations technique)</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000">bill w</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Dec 26, 2019 at 12:27 PM Adrian Tymes via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">On Thu, Dec 26, 2019 at 1:34 AM Rafal Smigrodzki via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:</div><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Dec 23, 2019 at 11:54 PM SR Ballard via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">I don’t understand why you are completely unwilling to take people’s feelings into account. Failing to do that is a major component of the resistance to science. Pure logic does not get the majority of people to change their opinion, personal emotional appeals do that.<div><br></div><div>The failure of yourself and people like you to understand the emotions at play are a HUGE part of anti-science sentiment.</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>### I sure understand their emotions and I despise those emotions too.</div><div><br></div><div>There is no reason why understanding evil should lead to acceptance of evil, should it?</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Merely opposing evil will not get evil people to stop their ways. If there are enough of them with enough power, then in order to accomplish good, one must plan for how to convert them to good. Understanding their evil is necessary to get them to convert.</div><div><br></div><div>In other words, mere blind opposition of opposing views will not work in some cases. This is one of them.</div></div></div>
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