<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><div class="gmail-gs" style="margin:0px;padding:0px 0px 20px;width:1048px;color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:medium"><div class="gmail-" style=""><div id="gmail-:it" class="gmail-ii gmail-gt gmail-adO" style="font-size:0.875rem;direction:ltr;margin:8px 0px 0px;padding:0px"><div id="gmail-:iu" class="gmail-a3s gmail-aXjCH" style="overflow:hidden;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:small;line-height:1.5"><div dir="auto" style=""><div dir="auto" style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">There is no reason why e.g. a protein changing conformation should be barred from association with a quale. I am tired of electric magic amd mystery. The brain is far more than electricity.</div><div dir="auto" style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div style=""><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif">If you are right, then dreams of copying neural networks to reproduce a mind, is just that, a dream. bill w</font></div><div class="gmail-yj6qo gmail-ajU" style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;outline:none;padding:10px 0px;width:22px;margin:2px 0px 0px"><div id="gmail-:h7" class="gmail-ajR" tabindex="0" style="background-color:rgb(232,234,237);border:none;clear:both;line-height:6px;outline:none;width:24px;border-radius:5.5px"><br></div><div id="gmail-:h7" class="gmail-ajR" tabindex="0" style="background-color:rgb(232,234,237);border:none;clear:both;line-height:6px;outline:none;width:24px;border-radius:5.5px"><br></div><div id="gmail-:h7" class="gmail-ajR" tabindex="0" style="background-color:rgb(232,234,237);border:none;clear:both;line-height:6px;outline:none;width:24px;border-radius:5.5px"><img class="gmail-ajT" src="https://ssl.gstatic.com/ui/v1/icons/mail/images/cleardot.gif" style="background: url("https://www.gstatic.com/images/icons/material/system/2x/more_horiz_black_20dp.png") 50% 50% / 20px no-repeat; height: 11px; opacity: 0.7; width: 24px;"></div></div></div></div></div><div class="gmail-hi" style="font-family:Roboto,RobotoDraft,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;border-bottom-left-radius:1px;border-bottom-right-radius:1px;padding:0px;width:auto;background:rgb(242,242,242);margin:0px"></div></div></div><br class="gmail-Apple-interchange-newline"></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 1:00 PM Will Steinberg via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Dec 28, 2019, 13:48 William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">I have not actively researched it, but I have been trying to follow glial cells and what roles they play in the brain. Are you suggesting that they are involved? bill w</div></div></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I am suggesting that there is no reason (and furthermore that it smacks of vitalism) that consciousness should be ascribed to electrochemistry and ONLY electrochemistry. From what I have seen and studied, there is no basis for this besides dogma from the 50s and earlier, and even earlier 'electrical mysticism'.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">There is no reason why e.g. a protein changing conformation should be barred from association with a quale. I am tired of electric magic amd mystery. The brain is far more than electricity.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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