<div dir="ltr">10 or 20 years ago, I would have agreed with this. Now, it seems to me that the camps are not defined as clearly. In particular, it is the "progressives" who, more and more, are "intolerant, dismissive of individual
      freedom of choice, angry." Regardless of labels, yes, those will always be at war against those who are "tolerant, supportive of individual freedom of choice,
      happy." As you say, let's hope this war won't take a very nasty form soon, but I'm afraid the conditions are there.<br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Jan 4, 2020 at 2:47 PM Ben Zaiboc via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
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              William Flynn Wallace <a href="mailto:foozler83@gmail.com" target="_blank"><foozler83@gmail.com></a></td>
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          <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">Just what is it
            that anyone here sees as good reasons to fight a major war?
            Yes, you can come up with thousands of 'if'scenarios. I want
            reasons that exist right now.  bill w<br>
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      The conflict between the two main world-views characterised by
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      Progressive, libertarian (as in "Social Libertarian" rather than
      the economic type. (I know that's a problematic word for
      americans)), pro-rationality, anti-superstition, curious,
      optimistic, tolerant, supportive of individual freedom of choice,
      happy.<br>
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      vs.<br>
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      Conservative, controlling, pro-superstition, anti-rationality,
      unquestioning, pessimistic, intolerant, dismissive of individual
      freedom of choice, angry.</p>
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    <p>I can't really see any compromise or common ground between these
      two general world-views, so they are, and probably always will be,
      at war. What form the war takes, though, is something that changes
      all the time. I don't think it will lead to a shooting war. At
      least not very often.<br>
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    <p>Ben Zaiboc<br>
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