<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div dir="ltr">Regarding removing restrictions on dope being a failure, I respectfully disagree and refer you to this report which is a summary of the heroin maintenance data up to 2015. </div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">https://findings.org.uk/PHP/dl.php?file=Strang_J_30.txt1</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">While this isn’t “unrestricted” dope availability exactly, it’s far from prohibition, and I think it represents an approach that has removed so much of the harm associated with using and acquiring unregulated opiates off the black market. I have the original article they summarize if anyone wants it. </span></div><div dir="ltr"><font color="#000000"><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><br></span></font><blockquote type="cite">On Jan 9, 2020, at 12:26 AM, spike jones via extropy-chat <extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>-----Original Message-----</span><br><span>From: extropy-chat <extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org> On Behalf Of</span><br><span>Keith Henson via extropy-chat</span><br><span>Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 7:52 PM</span><br><span>To: ExI chat list <extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org></span><br><span>Cc: Keith Henson <hkeithhenson@gmail.com></span><br><span>Subject: Re: [ExI] state of conflict technology</span><br><span></span><br><span><spike@rainier66.com> wrote:</span><br><span></span><br><span>snip</span><br><span></span><br><blockquote type="cite"><span>I am AGIN it, I tells ya! All of it, all forms of dope, everything, AGIN</span><br></blockquote><span>it! Bad medicine it is. Poison. Toxic to mind, body and spirit.</span><br><span></span><br><span>That's rather inconsistent with libertarianism.</span><br><span></span><br><span>Keith</span><br><span>_______________________________________________</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>On the contrary sir. I didn't say anything about law, or prohibiting anyone</span><br><span>from these things. I unapologetically state my suggestion to leave it all</span><br><span>alone. </span><br><span></span><br><span>I know there are those who have success with various things, but I also have</span><br><span>lived long enough to know plenty who do not, plenty who have wrecked lives.</span><br><span>I went to my 30th high school reunion, I noted who had passed on. We all</span><br><span>knew who was the doper crowd back in the day, and who was not. I could find</span><br><span>enough representatives of each group to get a statistically significant</span><br><span>result by comparing the groups. In general, the non-dopers do better.</span><br><span></span><br><span>This is perfectly compatible with libertarianism, which recognizes that</span><br><span>prohibition is a failure.</span><br><span></span><br><span>Living near San Francisco, I also recognize that removing all restrictions</span><br><span>on dope is also a failure.</span><br><span></span><br><span>spike</span><br><span></span><br><span>_______________________________________________</span><br><span>extropy-chat mailing list</span><br><span>extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</span><br><span>http://lists.extropy.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/extropy-chat</span><br></div></blockquote></body></html>