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style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">On Sun, Jan 19,
2020 at 8:49 AM Ben Zaiboc via extropy-chat <<a
href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>>
wrote:</span><br>
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0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><i><span
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style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">> </span>I
mean it should be possible to point to a specific thing in a
specific beings brain and say that is what's causing their
experience</i></blockquote>
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I could be a zombie. How could you ever know for certain that
I'm even having an experience much less point to a specific
thing in my brain and say that is the cause of it?</font></div>
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rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote"><span
style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><span
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style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">> </span>or,
rather, that's what 'their experience' </span><b
style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">is</b></blockquote>
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<div class="gmail_default" style=""><font size="4">> You could
point to a specific part of my brain and say that is what caused
me to behave in a certain way, but behavior is not qualia. You
are in the same position that Evolution was in when it produced
the human race; you can not directly detect qualia in others,
you can only hypothesize about it from their behavior. </font></div>
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OK, in that case, what use is the word and concept "Qualia"? Does
it add anything at all to our understanding of ourselves? It would
seem not.<br>
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I don't believe in zombies. If memory serves, there's a logical
argument by someone or other to prove they can't exist, I don't
remember who though. Anyway, the concept seems just daft. If anyone
could be a zombie, we'd all be zombies. I'm not, though, so I reckon
no-one is. You can probably articulate the evolutionary argument for
this better than I can.<br>
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Ben Zaiboc</pre>
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