<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000">JUst another ignorant idea from me? Hope not. What could happen? Private companies are now putting satellites in orbit. I assume with gov. OK. What is to stop another country from doing that and making use of it available to all? Now we have a means of communicating that is free of the U.S., although of course they probably could hack it. Or even a private individual on his own polynesian island doing that? At some point won't there be too many things to monitor and no way to pass laws stopping any encryption? bill w</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 10:28 AM spike jones via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US"><div class="gmail-m_-524921125237053047WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>John Clark via extropy-chat<br><b>ubject:</b> Re: [ExI] Encryption<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 10:25 AM William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><blockquote style="border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="gmail-m_-524921125237053047gmaildefault"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">><span style="color:black">> </span></span></span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black">So what can a government do? Investigate anyone who sends encrypted messages?<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div></blockquote><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt">>…Yes, or at least investigate anyone who doesn't use government approved encryption that has a backdoor in it that the government can use whenever they want…John K Clark<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">I have an idea on that which might work.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">I mentioned earlier that we have bandwidth available that is too cheap to meter (how often in history is anything of value so abundant it is indistinguishable from free?) so we can get around the problem John mentioned.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">We have reams of text available on chat sites, news commentary sections and so forth, megabytes of text generated per second, which anyone can highlight, copy, paste, and boom you have megabytes of blather. Just as messages can by embedded in a photo (at a ratio of 16 to 1 length of photo to length of message) anyone could embed a message encrypted by one-time pad in a text message at a ratio of 1000 to 1 and it would be undetectable. It would start with reams of blather and a very slight tweak would leave it that way.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Start with a coupla K of message, such as this one, embed it in a coupla megabytes of pointless blather, encrypt that file using government-approved backdoor-enabled encryption. Local tyrant decrypts your message and finds only a pile of commentary so commonly found everywhere on the internet, with no indication there is anything more in there.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Of course there is always the problem the local tyrant could beat it out of us. But I don’t see society developing that way.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">spike<u></u><u></u></p></div></div></div></div></div>_______________________________________________<br>
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