<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">On Mon, Feb 3, 2020 at 4:17 PM Brent Allsop via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:</span><span class="gmail_default"></span><br></div></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr"><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"></span></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;line-height:normal;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">></span>You
<span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">[Ben] </span>asked:</span></p>

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<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;line-height:normal;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">“</span><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,176,80);background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">Now why
on earth would the experience of redness suddenly become the experience of
greenness? </span><i style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><span style="font-size:11pt;line-height:107%;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,176,80);background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">How</span></i><span style="font-size:11pt;line-height:107%;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,176,80);background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial"> could it?</span><span style="font-size:11pt;line-height:107%;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">”</span></p>

<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;line-height:normal;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial"> </span></p>

<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;line-height:normal;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">By simply inverting the red green signal
anywhere in the causal chain of events that is perception as proven can be done
<a href="https://canonizer.com/videos/consciousness/" style="color:blue" target="_blank">here</a></span></p></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style=""><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"></font><font size="4">You keep saying that but I don't know what you think has been proven. As long as the inversion was done consistently and included memories (so ripe strawberries and leaves don't suddenly have the same color) then there would be no way you could even notice subjectively that a change of some sort had been made. And there is no way I could see any change in your objective behavior either. So if whatever you're talking about produces no subjective change, and no objective change in behavior, then whatever change you're talking about is not important to either.  </font></div><div class="gmail_default" style=""><font size="4"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default" style=""><font size="4"> John K Clark</font></div>
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