<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div>Oh my gosh. You see no difference between adding more ones and zeros, vs adding an increasing number of distinguishable physical (or spiritual or superveening if you must) qualities, both of which can equally well represent everything about strawberries?</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Feb 12, 2020 at 3:02 PM Stathis Papaioannou via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, 13 Feb 2020 at 08:35, Brent Allsop via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><br><div>Stathis,</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Feb 12, 2020 at 2:22 PM Stathis Papaioannou via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>I see no reason why the third robot should lack qualia and the first two should have them.</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>You have got to be kidding me. This is totally shocking to me. No wonder we are having such problems communicating.</div><div><br></div><div>You must be completely not understanding anything I've been talking about how the word red isn't physically red. While our knowledge of red things has a physical redness quality.</div><div>You think these two different representations of red things are in any way the same??????</div><div><br></div><div>PIcking my jaw up off the floor.</div></div></div></blockquote><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">But the third robot can distinguish red things from green things. It is this ability which is associated with qualia.</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><div></div></div></div>
</blockquote></div></div>-- <br><div dir="ltr">Stathis Papaioannou</div>
_______________________________________________<br>
extropy-chat mailing list<br>
<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a><br>
<a href="http://lists.extropy.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/extropy-chat" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://lists.extropy.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/extropy-chat</a><br>
</blockquote></div></div>