<div dir="ltr"><br><div>Right, it is up to the experimentalists.  When they discover what it is that has your redness quality (i.e. we finally discover the real physical color of things), this will prove my model adequate, and you model inadequate.</div><div>Along with the fact that you can't make any sense of robot #3 and why it, by definition, does not have qualia.</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 12:21 PM John Clark via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 2:06 PM Brent Allsop via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr"><br></div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">> </span><i>I would bet you also feel the same way about robot #3 as John feels when he says: "<span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">I can't say anything about Robot #3 because it makes no sense to me."<span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"> </span></span>This just proves that you don't yet get it.</i></blockquote></div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><font size="4">Either that or it proves there is nothing there to get.</font></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><font size="4"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><font size="4">John K Clark</font></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><font size="4"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><font size="4">John K Clark</font></div><br>
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