<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000">Since no one has any idea,but many theories, what is wrong with the idea that any creature who makes a decision, an intelligent act, is conscious? Or capable of learning, if you want to put it that way.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000">bill w</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Feb 17, 2020 at 12:18 PM Dave Sill via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">On Sun, Feb 16, 2020 at 12:08 PM John Clark via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr"><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">It's all about Evolution! If what you say about consciousness is correct then <span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">Evolution would have never produced it, and yet I know for a fact that it did at least once.</span></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>You keep saying that, but that doesn't make it true. Evolution isn't some omniscient overseer tweaking genes to achieve a desired result. It's random mutations that have completely unintended consequences. Consciousness happened not because "Evolution" wanted it to, but because the right pieces came together the right way. Maybe human-level intelligence requires consciousness, maybe it doesn't: it's possible that both intelligence and consciousness improve fitness but they're basically independent.</div><div><br></div><div>-Dave</div></div></div>
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