<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000">adrian wrote:  <span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)">And if the Saudi and Iranian citizens knew who the secret police were *and* how little threat different religions and homosexuality actually posed.</span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)"><br></span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)">(should have been sent weeks ago - sorry)</span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)"><br></span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)">Adrian, I don't think that the Iranians in government, or Islamists anywhere, care about the reality of threats.  They are applying their religion as they were taught and while we regard some of those things as irrational, they don't care. It's about religion. It's about tradition.  It's about honor and all that.</span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)"><br></span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)">To repeat a post of some while ago:  a poll of the Iranian citizens showed that 2/3 of them thought a government should be secular.</span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)"><br></span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)">bill w</span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)"><br></span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)"><br></span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)"><br></span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)"><br></span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)"><br></span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)"><br></span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)"><br></span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(34,34,34)"><br></span></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Feb 8, 2020 at 6:18 PM Adrian Tymes via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">On Sat, Feb 8, 2020 at 12:21 PM Ben Zaiboc via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
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    On 08/02/2020 19:29, Brent Allsop wrote:<br>
    <blockquote type="cite">The
      world would be so much better if everyone knows everything.</blockquote>
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    Yep, the world would be so much better if the Saudi government knew
    exactly who had exactly what opinions on religion, if the Iranian
    people knew for sure who was gay,</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>And if the Saudi and Iranian citizens knew who the secret police were *and* how little threat different religions and homosexuality actually posed.</div><div><br></div><div>"Everything" does not merely include the bad parts.</div></div></div>
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