<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">Or, put another, 50% of the human race willfully ignored him, and the other 50% followed them...<br><br><div dir="ltr">SR Ballard</div><div dir="ltr"><br>On Mar 7, 2020, at 6:33 AM, John Clark via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">On Fri, Mar 6, 2020 at 11:48 AM Giulio Prisco via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:</span><br></div></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr"><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div dir="auto"><i><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">> </span>I disagree with Douthat on the points that you mention. But I don't have to agree on everything before agreeing on something. In THIS case, I think he has good points and solid arguments.</i></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style=""><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"></font><font size="4">Even if I'm wrong about religion conferring no net positive value to society, doesn't the fact that the alleged utility is based on a lie and in the case of Christianity is utter nonsense, give you pause in assigning an essential nobility to the various religious franchises? I say nonsense because if "God becoming furious with the entire human race because just one of its members ate an apple when told not to, and even though He can do anything He can't just forgive Humanity, the only way God can forgive all of humanity is for the Homo sapiens to torture His Son, who is also God and who He loves very much, to death" is not nonsense then nothing is nonsense.</font><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style=""><font size="4"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default" style=""><font size="4"> John K Clark</font></div></div></div>
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