<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 4:53 PM Ben Zaiboc via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div> Then you are refusing to see it. The difference is blindingly
obvlous. Religions have rules of behaviour, whole tomes explaining
what kind of behaviour, dress, food, sexual practices, rituals,
etc., are required or allowed (and which ones are 'sinful' and to be
discouraged, in oneself and in others), and often horrifically
graphic descriptions of what punishments await those who break the
rules.<br>
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Atheism has none of that. Religions give people <i>reasons</i> for
being horrible to others.</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>### Turn the other cheek? Love thy neighbor as you love yourself? Thou shalt not kill?</div><div><br></div><div>-------------------------</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div> Atheism doesn't.<br>
Nobody is violent, coercive, etc., <i>because</i> they are
atheists, because there is a complete absence of those rules of
behaviour, no prescriptions, no concept of 'sin' etc.<br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>### Well, yes, if you don't believe you will be punished in an afterlife for murdering your neighbor, you may be more inclined to do so, don't you think?</div><div><br></div><div>-----------------------</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>
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How can you possibly regard them as symmetric cases? They're as
asymmetric as you can get!<br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>### Oh, sure atheism and religion are not symmetric, since atheism is true and religion is not. And religion commits many sins, like the jihad and the auto-da-fe.</div><div><br></div><div>But still, atheism not leavened by humanism commits a sin of omission, it lacks crucial ingredients needed for a society to work well.</div><div><br></div><div>Rafal</div></div></div>