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On 29/03/2020 17:14, Stuart LaForge asked:<br>
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cite="mid:mailman.33.1585498467.21400.extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">Consciousness
(but not knowledge) might be non-local phenomenon. So here is an
interesting thought experiment:
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Imagine a conscious observer. Now notice that while a conscious
observer must have some none-zero rest mass, it is at all times at
rest with respect to itself by definition of its own frame of
reference. Consequently, its velocity and therefore momentum
relative to itself is zero. This means that the uncertainty in the
conscious observer's momentum is also zero. Since by the quantum
mechanics of wave functions and Heisenberg uncertainty, zero
uncertainty in your momentum is equivalent to infinite uncertainty
in your position, the conscious observer exists throughout all of
space. In other words, you have no clue which universe you are in
BECAUSE you are in an infinite number of universes BECAUSE you are
a conscious observer. And as a corollary no conscious observer is
allowed by physics to be omniscient.
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Think about it as your soul passing through a slit of zero width
and diffracting everywhere. This idea sounds very Deepak Chopra to
even to me so be brutal. Tell me why it is wrong.
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Easy.<br>
Heisenberg Uncertainty only applies to subatomic particles, not
macroscopic objects. Zero subatomic particles have been demonstrated
to be conscious observers but billions of macroscopic objects have
been demonstrated to be. Therefore, Heisenberg Uncertainty <i>almost
certainly</i> (I have to say that for legal reasons) does not
apply to conscious observers.<br>
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Apart from that, I have difficulty with the notion above about
'souls passing through...'. Before that can even potentially mean
anything, you need to define the word 'soul'.<br>
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<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">--
Ben Zaiboc</pre>
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