<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000">I regarded all 'news' from authoritarian governments to be propaganda.  There is no way to validate anything.  There are no independent sources to quote.  It's all what they want us to believe.  Why are we even questioning this?  What is there to discuss?  Maybe there is some truth mixed in with the lies, but how could we ever tell?  People who blow the whistle get disappeared.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000">bill w</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 2:02 PM Dylan Distasio via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">John-<div><br></div><div>You're either willfully ignoring Chinese critical news or not reading it:<br><br><div>I wonder where all those missing cell phone users are...</div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-23/china-s-mobile-carriers-lose-15-million-users-as-virus-bites" target="_blank">https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-23/china-s-mobile-carriers-lose-15-million-users-as-virus-bites</a>  <br></div><div><br></div><div>Some may be in here:</div><div><a href="https://nypost.com/2020/03/28/shipments-of-urns-in-wuhan-raise-questions-about-chinas-coronavirus-reporting/" target="_blank">https://nypost.com/2020/03/28/shipments-of-urns-in-wuhan-raise-questions-about-chinas-coronavirus-reporting/</a></div><div><br></div><div>As far as containment goes, why are movie theaters closing again:</div><div><a href="https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/china-shuts-down-all-cinemas-again-1287040" target="_blank">https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/china-shuts-down-all-cinemas-again-1287040</a> </div><div><br></div><div>Why are there riots in Wuhan over still not being allowed to leave:<br><a href="https://www.the-sun.com/news/602805/coronavirus-riots-erupt-near-wuhan-as-locals-leave-quarantine-only-to-be-told-they-cant-travel-anywhere-else-in-china/" target="_blank">https://www.the-sun.com/news/602805/coronavirus-riots-erupt-near-wuhan-as-locals-leave-quarantine-only-to-be-told-they-cant-travel-anywhere-else-in-china/</a>   </div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 2:35 PM John Clark via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><div class="gmail_default"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"></font><font size="4">If China is lying about the true number of COVID-19 cases they have then the entire world will very soon learn the truth because they are starting to open things up again and restart their economy; if things are not as good as they're claiming they are then the epidemic in China will flare up again worse than ever. And there is no way they could keep something that huge secret. </font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font size="4"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><font size="4"> John K Clark</font></div><br>
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