<div dir="ltr">+1. I'll have to check out the 538 piece. I'm shocked they're still putting out anything of value these days.<br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 1:06 PM Darin Sunley via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">This is true. Every piece of data we are given in the media is pure garbage, and the academic numbers, even fully qualified, aren't much better,<div><br></div><div>Fivethirtyeight ran an [uncharacteristically for them, these days] excellent piece on the difficulties in creating a data model for COVID that isn't a pure, panic-mongering, stab in the dark.</div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-its-so-freaking-hard-to-make-a-good-covid-19-model/" target="_blank">https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-its-so-freaking-hard-to-make-a-good-covid-19-model/</a> </div><div><br></div><div>Fortunately, there's a lot of media organizations form whom panic-mongering is their bread and butter, so we have no shortage of models to work with, all of which are terrible.</div><div><br></div><div>The correct response to complete ignorance is a the null hypothesis, not the worst-case scenario. But worst-case scenarios get WAY more clicks.. So here we are.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 10:01 AM John Clark via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 10:06 AM spike jones via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:</span><br></div></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div lang="EN-US"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> </p></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><i><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">> </span>that chart didn’t show why because it wasn’t in per-capita infection rates.</i></p></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"></font><font size="4">Speaking of per-capita, we don't know the true number of people in the USA that are infected because the USA has done far fewer testing per-capita than any other modern industrial nation and started doing them far later, even later and fewer than some third world nations. As a result we're flying blind, all we have is a lower bound. </font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font size="4"><br></font></div><div class="gmail_default"><font size="4"> John K Clark</font></div></div></div>
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