<div dir="ltr"><div><div><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, 15 Apr 2020 at 10:03, spike jones via extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat@lists.extropy.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> extropy-chat <<a href="mailto:extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org" target="_blank">extropy-chat-bounces@lists.extropy.org</a>> <b>On </b><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">When the people fear the government, there is tyranny. When the government fears the people, there is liberty. <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Which do you prefer? Me too.<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">I don’t think that the main reason the US Government is not a tyranny is that they are afraid you have have a gun. If it were the case, why is the US different to other stable non-tyrannies where citizens lack guns?<u></u><u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal">-- <u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">Stathis Papaioannou<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Hi Stathis, given time, other governments will turn to tyranny. They aren’t there yet. The US government would be there already if it had been given the chance.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">In the US, it is always the scariest power-grabbers who want to get our guns from us. It’s our job to see they don’t get them and don’t get power either.</p></div></div></div></blockquote><div> </div><div dir="auto">But why aren’t countries with a long history of much lower gun ownership rates than the US, say the Netherlands or Australia, closer to tyranny than the US? On the contrary, the US is more authoritarian than these countries, with more restrictions of personal freedoms and harsher treatment of lawbreakers.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"></p></div></div></div><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u></p></div></div>
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